Now that we have final numbers. It appears that Harris had all the white & black support she needed for an EC victory. But Trump outright flipping Latino men and making huge gains with Latino women seems to have made all the difference.

What do you think?

First image is 2024, second is 2020.

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It is also crazy that I lived long enough to see more Latino men vote Republican than white women 😂

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Do some rough math say there are 200,000,000 total eligible voters.

2024 would have 12,000,000 male Latino voters 2020 would have 10,000,000 based on the 3rd column

Even if 100% went left to right at most you have a 12M shift.

That shift though in absolute numbers was far less than that though based on the R/D split, so not a tremendous impact over all.

There was just a lot less people showing up over all for any reason.

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Need some titles on those columns. I’m guessing red/blue are the usual party colors, but what is the 3rd?

The biggest factor really is disengagement. There where millions who where involved in 2020 that just skipped out this time.

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3rd is the percentage of the vote amongst all demographics.

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Why are columns 1 & 2 shifter between the two images? Makes comparison harder.

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The winner is always on the left. But yeah I get it.

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The 3rd column might be the relative share of citizens or registered voters.

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I think white men and white women bear more of the blame here purely by population size.

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Agreed. Despite all the nuances (which are important, too)… Judging by this table, the biggest total blame is on white men, followed by white women and latino men, though there aren’t that many of them. But I feel i need to say this doesn’t have anything to do with ethnicity. You could also make a chart of city vs rural areas or several other factors and you’d probably also find interesting correlations and shifts in opinion.

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Latines now make up 20% of the U.S. population, making them the largest minority group. Among the under-18 demographic, that number climbs to nearly 30%. If current population trends hold, Latines are poised to become the largest ethnic group in the country within about 25 years—that’s just three presidential terms away.

While Latines are a minority ethnicity, they are the largest one and the second-fastest growing, trailing only Asians. Asians, despite having one of the lowest birth rates, experience the highest proportional rate of immigration. Notably, Trump gained 12% of the Asian vote in the most recent election, a trend across these growing demographics that, if sustained, could spell significant gains for Republicans in the future.

However, let’s not overlook the broader electoral picture. Black, Asian, and Latine men and women combined make up about 29% of the voting public in presidential elections, while white women alone account for a staggering 37-38%. For context, Latino men represent just 5-6% of voters. White women are, by far, the largest voting demographic.

Interestingly, Trump increased his share of all women by 7% compared to when he ran against Biden and has increased his support from women each time he’s ran. The devastating thing, I think, is that Trump won 13% more of the 18-29-year-olds, 5% more of 30-44-year-olds, and continues to capture “Boomer Lite,” aka Gen X, a majority of whom he has won each time he’s ran, but he increased his share by 9% this time.

Edit: corrected an earlier data error.

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Dude where are you getting your data? Trump won white women by 52% in 2016.

If he had lost white women like you posted, he would’ve lost the election.

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With how thin our election margins are, I wonder if literally just misogynists can swing the election. Would 1 in 100 Americans refuse to vote for a woman for president? I think maybe yes.

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It’s hard to separate out the factors. Would a man have also struggled with a campaign starting so late (and doing so poorly in a previous primary). Would a white women? How can we separate out the influence of race, sex and the less than ideal running circumstances.

Given who she is, and running when she had to, she actually did pretty damn well.

Tbh looking for blame beyond Biden seems pointless to me. She has every sign of having been able to win over more people had she been prepped as the nominee from the start…

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Who’s talking blame?

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As another White Dude for Harris, I concur entirely. It’s definitely an issue with white dudes.

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“Are we out of touch with our core voters?”

“No, it’s the voters who are wrong”.

This will probably be how the Democrats regroup after the loss.

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The fact that any group aside from white men voted for trumpism is the issue. The disconnect was the complicit main stream media sane washing the craziness. They put racism/homophobia/fascism on the same level as Harris’ policies.

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I object!

White men voting for trumpism is also the issue.

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For sure, though I get the op point that at least Trump pretends to promise them something unlike every other group

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Idk, white folks voting for Trump is an issue if you ask me, a white guy. Too many white folks sane washing his shit. Morning Joe went from “he’s a fascist” to “let’s put out differences aside”. Other whities need to realize this is a grift that will likely kill your own.

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