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What/who do you think he is referring to as worse?

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Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Bush

Just my guess though.

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George Takei was five years old when he and his family were sent to a Japanese American internment camp during World War II - so probably that among the other political events and upheavals since

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Thanks. He’s definitely a fighter.

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Probably his three years in three different internment camps.

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Wasn’t he actually interred in a camp during WWII? And he lived through the AIDS crisis as a gay man

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He has a graphic novel biography about his childhood growing up in internment camps. I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to understand a bit of American history that they don’t really teach in schools.

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Im sure compared to the interment camps, this is nothing.

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And if you care at all, you’ll do your part to make sure

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We don’t have internment camps again yet.

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I mean there’s the “migrant overflow facilities” that have about 40,000 people in them right now.

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George Takei has been in one before, though.

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Yes, I’m well aware. My point is that they’re literally already planning new ones.

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We haven’t opened the new ones but Mr Takei did grow up in one being a Japanese American of a certain age

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I want to be more optimistic, but I’m looking for the ingredients we’d need to push back effectively on the creeping fascism any time in the near future, and they don’t seem to be here.

Democrats need a massively leftward and populist shift to differentiate themselves from Republicans in the eyes of uninformed voters, and I think there’s just too much pushing against it. All the biggest channels of information are controlled by billionaires. They are not going to present any progressive efforts in a positive light, and they’ve become really effective at setting people who have common interests against each other. That, or inundating us so much that people understandably become numb to it and tune out. Trump was about as blatantly awful as a candidate could ever be, and he still won.

I’m fearing all we have to look forward to is 10 steps back under Republicans then 1 step forward under Democrats before Republicans take control again. Democrat leadership seems to prefer losing to winning with a progressive agenda.

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It’s been what? Two weeks? We sure give up quickly.

Fighting against fascism is about constant small victories. Saying no. Suing at every step. Making it to the next election with things as intact as we can make them. Maybe it won’t work, though it is sure as hell better than expecting the Democrats to step up. If we want reform, let’s cause reform.

Trump won by 1.6% of the popular vote. Not a single one of us are as alone as we think. Yeah, sure, a break would be great. We don’t get that. Moreover, we are a young country and in that time there have been governments who to many people were fascist in nature, repressive on a good day. We came out of those times better than we were because we stood up together. It’s time to hold accountable those who deserve it once again. Freedom has a price and we are mostly here because of our apathy, make no mistake, and our unwillingness to engage in greater numbers locally and in midterms. However, from there it’s on the people near and at the top.

We are the ingredients. Every action we take, even something as small as standing up for a couple in a restaurant, is a small push back.

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.Fighting against fascism is about constant small victories.

That’s not generally the way fascism is defeated. Sometimes yes, but it usually takes a somewhat more aggressive approach. We should take that possible future seriously as well, even as we work to avoid it.

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Yeah, this “shavings make a pile” strategy is quaint, but fascists generally only understand one message, and it’s historically delivered at the end of a fist. And Democrats are proving themselves to very much NOT be a party of fighters.

Biden has essentially been granted a King’s powers and is showing the world exactly who he is by accomplishing exactly nothing, when there are no recriminations for pushing to do ALL that he claimed he would when he took the office. He is the worlds most self-impotent empty suit.

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People are dealing with a serious fucking blow. Emotionally.

Probably a liiiitle soon to declare a give-up.

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You want ingredients? I have a cocktail recipe

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Demolish Citizens United. That would make a world of difference.

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Democrats need a massively leftward and populist shift to differentiate themselves from Republicans in the eyes of uninformed voters

In the eyes of informed voters too.

Democrat leadership

It’s the Democratic Party.

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The US just elected a child rapist, and convicted felon, who praised Hitler’s generals and said he wants to be a dictator. Oh, and he also wants to ahave everyone who ever stood against him murdered. Only 30% of eligible voters actively tried to stop it.
If you thought the Dems were conservative before, just wait and see how far right they can jump in order to chase the only group that will show up to the polls every damn time, no matter how stupid, or how fake and repeatedly disproven the reason is.

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If the Democratic response to a dumb plan failing over and over is going to be “do it harder” again, then I guess America is just over. Republicans are what Republicans are. Voters are what voters have always been. We can blame them all we want, but it won’t get us anywhere. We fix the Democratic party, or try to survive until reconstruction.

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A foul-mouthed, shit-talking, no-bullshit pro union pro lgbtq pro healthcare ballbuster who’s sick of pussyfooting, eggshell walking, and capitulating could do wonders.

Trump’s irreverance, but paired with competence, a heart, and basic, decent, sensible views.

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The DNC would never allow such a person to pass through their filters. In many ways, the Democrats themselves are as much an enemy of the people as the most extreme Republicans.

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Tim Walz gives me hope, if he runs for president in 2028. He’s too big of a name now for the DNC to keep him under wraps. He might not even want to, though.

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If people actually voted in primaries then maybe we can actually choose somebody. The fact that you people still have these rigged primary conspiracies after successfully forcing an incumbent to step down is silly beyond belief.

The sad truth is millions more people voted for Hillary Clinton than Bernie Sanders in the primary in 2016.

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I love George Takei as much as the next person, and I know what he went through as a child, but what is his part? Tweeting about it?

We need concrete solutions, not rah rah platitudes.

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Okay. Here’s a concrete solution on a small scale:

Begin getting together signatures and run for local office, or become involved by going to council meetings and challenging stupid perspectives with courage and audacity.

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I almost listed a few of his activism and fundraising initiatives, but then I thought: If this person doesn’t think a nearly 90 year old gay man, who survived an internment camp, has seen some shit and has some wisdom to share, I probably won’t be the one to open their eyes.

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That’s very cute of you, but I did say I also love George Takei. I know he has wisdom to share. I just don’t think this is useful right now.

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So if not tweeting about it, WTF are you expecting from him? Be specific.

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Ok just not for you, but for others yeah it kind of helps even keep up the spirits so gtfo of the way then cuz you’re not helpful nor useful.

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People can do multiple things. Like post and organize mutual aid. Or post and engage in activism. Or write a comment and think.

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Well it sure beats the hell out of people doomposting themselves into an echo chamber of hopelessness. Rah rah platitudes in a much darker light

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Speaking of not being helpful…

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A huge chunk of the country is demoralized by all this. As trite as it sounds we absolutely need a pep rally, and some basic direction to go on. Right now there is a monstrous information and leadership vacuum, so anything would be preferable to that.

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