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The French deserve some respect. If you want to know what a true strike or protest looks like, look to the French.

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More and more these days French disrespect feels like boomer shit. Look what the French did when the government came for their pensions. The industrial action within the transport sector alone.

I was visiting Paris during some of the aforementioned protest. They’re out and about (in numbers) and will gladly get out to protest when they feel it necessary. Plenty of other western countries could learn, a lot, from the French people.

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I keep saying this and people look at me like I’m some kind of extremist

Like no dude I just want universal healthcare

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universal healthcare

*me, looking at you like you’re some sort of communist

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Look what the French did when the government came for their pensions.

For the record we did get it down from 65 to 64, but we still got +2 years.

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I appreciate that the outcome may not have been what was strictly desired. The French populace still get off their arse and do more than complain on social media while effectively doing three fifths of fuck all. More than what can be said about some others, especially those who are inclined to make brain devoid white flag jokes.

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A lot of it now goes back to the Iraq war, when France refused to join the Coalition of the Willing and invade. Nearly constant derision of the French in the media for a decade will do that to people.

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This already started with the Vietnam war, where France warned the US not to get involved. There’s a lesson here but I can’t quite put my finger on it.

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Even today, they just don’t give a fuck about rules.

In Southern France there are speed cameras being set up everywhere, and they’ll catch you for being even a few km’s over. The locals (mostly rural) have responded by either torching them, encasing them in hay bales, painting over them, or chopping them down. The police keep putting them up, alongside cameras to watch the cameras, and the locals keep destroying them overnight.

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Also true in the west, where I am, so I presume the same all over France.

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Fortunately my area doesn’t allow this nonsense, but I’d totally be down for some infrastructure vandalism if they ever try.

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The important thing is to burn lots of people’s cars. Probably locals who are also protesting.

That’s how you really get the attention of the authorities.

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In France, but also Belgium and the Netherlands, you have a very malcontent population of 2nd or 3rd generation offspring (mostly male) of migrants who feel left out by the system and take any opportunity to cause chaos. It are these kids who set cars alight, not the protestors.

Often when there is a truly large protest, they are there to “fight against the system” by getting into fights with the police and burning cars and just causing overall mayhem.

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Deflecting blame by subtle ethnic discrimination. Nice.

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Did you see the yellow jackets marching with their rolling barbecue fitted on the city’s tram line? Magnificent bastards.

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The French also excel at rudeness and Math.

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So yeah why does the american/english don’t do more research about origins and call everything french ?

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It’s because deep frying was not very common in the U.S. Immersion in hot fat was considered a French style of cooking, so they’re French style fried potatoes. I think “fries” instead of “frieds” is dialect that caught on nationally in the U.S. in the 70s.

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Yeah, it never occurred to anyone ever to stick their tongues in each others mouths until it was documented in ancient India.

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Anon didn’t say that it started in ancient India, just that the fact that it happened in ancient India proves that it didn’t start in France

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We generally attribute discoveries to whoever documented it first. It’s almost laughable to attribute it to the French based on a kissing style that was widespread there in 1923. Surely people were doing it before then. Yet, the Americans and British found it so unique they referred to it as French kissing.

Perhaps it was common before ancient India, but then the question is, why didn’t the ancient Babylonians, Egyptians, Chinese, Romans, and Greek document on it then?

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We barely document how we wipe our asses or shower because it’s such a mundane, day to day thing.

Writing was limited, so I hypothesize that people would focus on important things like tax collections, kingly births or even that cunt Ea-Nasir. Less so on kissing or things they would find mundane.

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Arabic numerals came to Europe from India via Arabia. The Sine function does too, but it’s name is garbled and doesn’t mean anything.

Venetian blinds came from Persia via Venice.

Spanish Flu was everywhere, but everyone at the time was lying about it due to being at war, except for Spain.

Many First Nations peoples are known by what other peoples called them (often pejorative names) rather than their name for themselves.

Words usually aren’t authoritative declarations of truth, but rather snapshots of what was a useful distinction to someone somewhere a some time. Did the French think their style of kissing was a unique cultural phenomenon? Will Skibidi be known about in 500 years? No one documents graffiti, was it “discovered” by Pompeii?

We live in a truely unique age, where nearly any question can have a relavent answer of some kind in moments. We can see people streaming everyday things from around the globe, or find the best research about what we know about ancient people’s daily lives. Is any of this worth carving into a monument though? How many copies of an archeological journal are going to survive the ages vs copies of Game of Thrones? I’d say there are countless things about our lives we think are special to today that even prehistoric people did, it just isn’t notable enought to build monuments to or copy manuscripts of.

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That’s the thing. France and Belgium call french fries “frites” and “frieten”, which just translates to “fries”. It’s other cultures that gave them (wrong) names because of how they got to know them.

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Just have to triple check whether French revolution occured in French.

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Which gives rise to the true founding father of Germany. Napoleon.

Without his restructuring of the HRE for management it would be even harder to unify later.

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Questionable: the 2023 movie Napoleon is entirely British and American actors. It is historically accurate. đŸ€”

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Nobody in France calls French fries or French toast “French”. We’re definitely happy to attribute the fries to our Belgian friends and nobody thinks something as ubiquitous as toasts could have a single inventor. I think those are Anglo-Saxon cultural elements.

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No we are not attributing fries to the Belgian, fries are french. The Belgian improved on our invention and make the best fries, but Frenchs invented it.

Content warning, a lot of french: https://www.musee-gourmandise.be/fr/musee-gourmandise/articles-de-fond?view=article&id=132:la-veritable-histoire-de-la-frite&catid=77:articles-fond

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As a Belgian, this is my position as well. Fries is part of the Belgian culinary culture, but it’s chauvinism to claim they were invented in Belgium.

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The article states hypothesis and guesses, it doesn’t seem to provide a definitive answer.

Its conclusion, machine translated:

In the first two chapters, we talked about the unlikely birth of the deep-fried potato, the result of a marriage between the potato, a popular vegetable par excellence, and cooking in a fat bath, reserved for high society. Where could this marriage have taken place? In a well-to-do kitchen with a fine frying pan? Impossible, as we saw earlier. Potatoes have no place there. In the home of the poor potato-eating bastard? Impossible too. They don’t have enough fat.

Isn’t the answer to this question to be found in the streets of Paris, where in the 18th century, itinerant merchants carried their frying pans filled with dubious grease, into which they plunged meats and vegetables smeared with doughnut batter? Or is it to be found in a rotisserie with more extensive equipment? It’s a tempting hypothesis. As we know, the fried potato has spread through commerce. Wasn’t it born there? Is it not a purely commercial product? The inventor of the French fried potato will probably always remain anonymous, but we can guess his trade: a merchant. We can also guess his origin: Parisian.

Pierre Leclercq

March 2009 - December 2010

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Like the espresso, invented by the French (express or exprĂ©s? nobody knows which one it was, but making 1 little cup at a time was new and fast), then the Italians improved it, especially with gruppo 61, group head 61. Now they have the best coffee 😔

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Also here we call it “cafetiùre à piston” not french press.

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No idea what a French press is. Probably a cafetiĂšre ?

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Seems to be one and the same

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Who the hell calls it a French press, I’ve never heard anyone call it that.

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I never knew there was a different name for it. The cafetiùre is a new one on me, and I did French in high school. Guess we weren’t talking about coffee much, though apparently french fries came up enough for me to remember pommes frites (they probably don’t fry apples much over there).

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The US calls everything “French” because they think it’ll sell better.

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FIY: French toast is the english name for pain perdu.

Also probably not “invented” by the French, but no one thinks they invented simple toast.

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Anglo-Saxon cultural elements

You did your best to stamp those out back in 1066

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It’s still how we call this group from France.

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Do you use it differently to “English”?

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