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They aren’t exceptional. They’re just like Russia.

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We are not just like Russia.

We aren’t exceptional though, you got that right. America hasn’t been exceptional in decades.

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Oh, it has… just not in the ways anyone would desire to be considered exceptional.

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I’d argue we’re a lot more like the British empire in their glory days- exporting authoritarianism, subjugation, and hate globally, for as long as it serves our material benefit.

We learned from the best 🤷‍♂️

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Given that Russia has a competent government and isn’t on a verge of a civil war, not sure in what way America is like Russia.

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You call competent a government that pulled the “special military operation” and led hundreds of thousands of its people into death for not much of anything? You must be trolling.

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Typical of American exceptionalism to stand other country on the verge of existential crisis and when they react call that “for not much of anything”

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Yeah, I call a government that defeated NATO in Ukraine and manged to grow the economy despite the sanctions competent.

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It is difficult to get Drezner to understand that American exceptionalism is already dead when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.

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Why does Will E Coyote look so much like a Swastika here

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I’ve perceived that things have never been better for American international order than under Trump/Biden.

The last few cycles have been a weird time for NATO, as the escalating Russian aggression revitalised the alliance, but the unreliability of Trump vastly diminished the status of the US. Europe is now actively trying to get out of the military subordinate role.

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IDK what your point is. NATO being revitalized is not a “good thing” that makes us live nicer. NATO and rearmament is a fever, Russian imperialism is the sickness.

NATO is not an economic alliance, it’s a military one. The sole goal of NATO is keeping Russian soldiers outside NATO members’ territories. And as someone whose home country has suffered immensely under Russian occupation, seeing Russia draw troops down from the Finnish border right after they joined the alliance makes me happy that we are NATO members.

Europe wouldn’t be doing better outside NATO, it has no bearing on economics. Trade disruption with Russia certainly has to do with it, but ironically that’s because during the 00s and the 10s Europe extended a friendly hand to Russia, and got into deep trading entanglements with it, which Russia tried to exploit to force geopolitical concessions.

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End? It was always a myth?

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Right? But American mainstream media would not admit that.

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Trump was right about one thing, we are a nation in decline, but it’s not for the reasons he’s claiming.

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Democracies grant immense power to the electorate. Including the power of suicide. Democratic systems are inherently capable of ending themselves because ultimately their survival depends on enough people believing in the system and holding the integrity of the system to be more important than any particular democratic outcome. That is lost in the US. Most voters don’t care.

That truth alone makes a decent argument for US being in decline. It will take a long time , but it’s beginning.

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The US isn’t a democracy though, it is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, where every election we get to select which group of oppressors will wield state power against us until the next one.

Also decline is caused by anticolonial resistance and the logic of capitalism breaking down. I would suggest reading Lenin’s “imperialism” and Fanon’s “wretched of the earth”

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The US isn’t a democracy though, it is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, where every election we get to select which group of oppressors will wield state power against us until the next one.

Yes that truly one of the opinions of all time.

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Corrupt democracies should be suicided. Electoral college, first past the post, gerrymandering, partisant suprene court, gridlocked house and senate, bankers running money, wallstreet in charge of the commons, and that’s just for starters

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