Anon playing a dangerous game with management.
It’s all well and good until they find you, figure out what you’ve been doing (or rather not doing), then fire you and attempt to sue you for damages.
CYA. Make at least some attempts to be noticed. If they do notice you, at least you got a little bit of easily excusable free time - if they don’t, now you get the easy life AND a paper trail so they can’t say “why didn’t you try to tell us”.
There is no case to sue them. It’s the management responsibility, not the workers to assign work. They don’t need to go out seeking it.
While this is technically true, some pissed off business wanting to make an example of you, can most definitely cost you a lot of money trying to sue you in court.
trying to sue you in court.
Hmm, You’d probably get by fine representing yourself. Given it’s a bad idea…
I’d probably pick up a remote side job to work during the first job and store about 10k away to handle eventual legal fees. You wouldn’t need much of a lawyer to defend yourself.
I don’t know if they have much of a case to sue you, if you fall through the cracks on their own negligence. Fire you, yes. Sue, I am doubtful most larger businesses would even try. They’d rather solve the problem and sweep it under the carpet in my experience. Not USA experience of course, but still the attitude would be similar I expect.
I would worry a bit about whether they’re allowed to give negative references though. Because if so, it might not be so easy to get another job after.
Best move would be to line up another job to start like a month before the review, and never reach the review stage. Even if discovered, most people that would “know” wouldn’t really be driven to report anything if they’re leaving anyway. The “not my problem, and this will make it my problem” attitude in big companies is real.
I think in Spain ther was a legal case, but that person was paid for decades without any work. And it was also public funda, as the employer was some municipality iirk
I looked at that. Actually I would argue that was even more negligence by the management there. I mean they couldn’t even say how long he’d not been working for.
But in reality he was paid for at least 6 years of work (and they suspected more) and only fined for 1 year of pay. So, he’s still a winner I think. And yes, public funds likely did help in bringing that case forward.
Most larger private businesses tend to avoid going to a court for such things unless they need to in my experience.
I heard many similar stories like that from friends and it’s always a bit shocking to me. I’m no go getter or anything, i run my own business, but even then, i don’t want to work more than i really have to. But i just really can’t imagine what that must be like.
I had a friend who worked as a static engineer. He then worked for a company that made bearings for big machines, which wasn’t his line of work but he liked it. The company got bought by another company who did something different and he just fell through the cracks. At first he was super anxious and just pretended to draw on his drawing board and had excel open on his computer. But no one cared, a lot of people switched jobs and suddenly he didn’t really know anyone anymore and after a few month he told me that he doesn’t really know what his job is.
disclaimer: I’m not a bootlicker, all’s fair game for how you earn your keep
but there’s no way a competent person finds themselves not knowing what their job role is
that being said: a dubs a dub I guess ?
From what i gathered, the whole company was a huge mess. It was basically a very small company buying A big company that was going under. It was kind of the inverse of how these things would usually go. So the new company moved their things into the old factory so to say. With the merger, new people working with old people and new working spaces and what not. He shared his little office with another guy who quit in the merger because he was 62 and wasn’t gonna have it. People kinda just started working.
Depending on the state you’re in you can get sued for all that money back, best to CYA
So this answers the question what universal basic income would lead to — sitting at home and watching movies
Love that you’re getting down voted but we had something approaching universal basic income in my country trough wellfare plans that were not exclusive with each other and had super lax requirements (since corrupt officials would take a cut of them) and it resulted in a very marked increase in poverty and a very marked cultural decline in work ethic on the lower classes
Why work or study when you can just stay at home and get paid enough to survive if you vote for the “right” candidate. People love to dream about theorized ideals but reality is often more complicated
love random comments dismissing potentially good policy because “in my country” which you didnt name, it doesn’t work
what kind of fucking scientist says “huh that attempt didn’t work i guess it never will”?
You’re not even going to tell us what country it is so we can see? probably not, because it is probably a shitty comparison.
and for the record, parent comment was downvoted because it’s fucking stupid. there’s no UBI in this post. it’s as if i take a day off and go to the park and say “Hmpf this is why UBI doesnt work!” like what the fuck are you talking about, UBI is not just when lazy day. the only thing that could make this post dumber would be calling me triggered for pointing out how dumb it is
Ah yes, the super-informative anecdotal sample size of…
*checks notes*
… one.
*checks notes again*
Eh, an unreliable source at that
I’m mean, there’s a part of me that would say “fuck yeah, I would get a second job and get two incomes”. The other part of me is really sleepy, so I’m honestly not sure who would win this internal debate.
You didn’t report that you don’t have a manager is a reason to fire you, but doing two jobs is both easy to find (if they’re looking) and fraud.
Probably the sleepy bit for the first few months as you recover from a lifetime of wage slavery. Then the second job part comes along, once you’re in the right place and you figure out what you would love to do all day.
Even a cursory search online provides evidence that that isn’t the case: https://www.givedirectly.org/2023-ubi-results/#design
wastes his time watching movies all day.
Really?? Smh
Take the opportunity to acquire skills for the inevitable firing that’s coming later.
There was a story like that on Tales From Tech Support (buddy automated all his work while not making himself essential to support the automation) and when the guy got caught and had to find another job, it had been so long since he had actually worked that he had forgotten all about programming.
Or just get a second job and wait for the first one’s paychecks to stop rolling in.
OP is working for a huge corporation, so slacking off and getting paid for that is ethical.
I’d go even one step further and say that slacking off is more ethical than actually working in that situation.
Red cross, EPA, and FDA are all large organizations imo. Definitely outliers, but theyy do exist and I wouldn’t consider it ethical to take their money without working.
