I never could get Nix working but maybe someone will

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Wireguard is p2p.

EDIT: I guess the point is it’s doing peer discovery without static public IPs or DNS. Pretty cool!

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Or port forwarding. You have to open a udp port for wireguard

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Technically you can nat punch with wire guard

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How do I learn this power? Don’t you still need at least one server exposed?

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Sounds relatively similar to Yggdrasil

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YAML?? (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

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Careful. The yaml cult will come after you in a long and formless column, and only self destruct when one of them is a step too far to the left.

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what:
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# At least you can have comments unlike in json. Who need comments in a config file anyway.
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Nothing too major about how it’s usually used, but the yaml spec does allow arbitrary code execution when parsing a file and relies on the parser to have that feature disabled: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML#Security

That’s why for python, yaml.save_load() is a thing. That’s fine for your local config files and may even be a feature for you, but it shouldn’t be used to exchange information between services.

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My general view is similar, yaml is better if it should be written by humans, json is better if it should be written and read only by a machine. but hyprspace uses json for configuration, so I don’t really understand cellardoor’s comment

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Toml is superior to all.

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This reminds me of nebula although nebula does require a central server to coordinate hosts.

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Interesting, it’s on AUR, I will try it.

So it doesn’t need any port forwarding, and works on CGNAT? How the “NAT hole punching” works? Both clients connect to something on IPFS?

Afaik, for DHT with torrent, clients need to know at least one tracker, what is the “tracker” here? Something on IPFS? Who am I sending my IP addresses?

How much overhead does this add to speed? I love with Wireguard, that it’s barely noticeable, really close to p2p speeds, OpenVPN was awful in this regard.

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First off great find. I didn’t think to check the AUR. I personally wouldn’t use it as that version is 3 years out of date but its existence means that it might be entirely possible to get a non Nix version. I’m not sure I fully understand why it needs Nix OS but what do I know.

It is all libp2p magic

There have been lots if talks on libp2p and Nat traversal. I suggest you check them out. How it actually works is pretty complex and requires someone more knowledgeable than me to explain. One way it works is that both devices start a TCP connection at the same time which gets the proper ports to open up.

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AUR packages ending with"-git" or “-svn” always pull the latest commit from source. The version number means that was the last time the packager had to change something on the PKGBUILD script, not the actual version which would be installed.

Where should I look? Where were these talks? I’m interested.

Edit: I found the whitepaper about hole punching: https://research.protocol.ai/publications/decentralized-hole-punching/

It says it connects to a “Hole Punch Coordination (DCUtR - Direct Connection Upgrade through Relay)”. So for NAT traversal to work, you need a third party, this relay. As I expected. I guess you can self host this, but than you could just host a wireguard server. I guess if you are on a locked down network where you cannot connect to any relay (e.g. how the Chinese Great Firewall works technically they could block it) you can’t initiate a connection behind a NAT.

Nonetheless it seems interesting, but no magic here. Maybe the big difference that the relay servers are distributed, so no central authority to block easily.

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