That’ll send the Dems a message!
What message?
“The far-right gets more votes than a moderate, and there is no sizable left-wing voter bloc in this country”?
Huh.
Maybe that was the wrong message to send.
“And we’re cool with genocide as long as it’s not BlUe MAgA supported genocide! That’s just a bridge too far!”
When Obama won on a message of hope and change they decided to use that popularity as currency in exchange for corporate/moderate policy.
I wanted Harris to win. I hate Trump, but I can be mad at the Harris campaign for being shit and giving us Trump. I can be mad at everything.
Let’s not forget Biden, who dragged his old ass around on the carpet until the 11th hour before being forcibly ousted by his backers. Same guy who “committed” to being a one term president…until his enormous ego wouldn’t allow him to let go.
Cap that off with anointing Kamala instead of any democratic process, like Primaries, and the argument could be made that Biden ushered this entire timeline into existence.
Maybe disappointed at the Harris campaign and mad at the fascists who voted for trump
Obama at least managed to deliver the Affordable Care Act; which despite not being Medicare Part E (Medicare for All), was a significant improvement over what existed before.
What the US needs is a proper progressive firebrand from the Dems; someone from the Bernie school - or hell, just pick from any one of the other Western democracies.
If that’s their takeaway, then we’re doomed. They did nothing but court Republicans with their “We can be tough on migrants too” shit. It always blows up in their faces. Biden ran a moderately progressive campaign and blew Trump out of the water. Maybe… just maybe the supposed left party should stop courting the right. Most Americans agree with progressive policies (once you couch them to not sound too “socialist”)
If that’s their takeaway, then we’re doomed
Hate to break it to you, but we’re doomed. We voted in a fascist.
The best we can hope for is that Trump is less vicious than his rhetoric or that his incompetence prevents him from doing the many awful things he promised on the campaign trail.
If that’s their takeaway, then we’re doomed.
Yes, which is why we should’ve sent a different message.
The only other message that could be sent is “Yes, good, keep doing that.”
Nothing to do with her politics. Everything to do with the BS the Dems pulled to get her on the ballot. Dems told me to hold my nose and vote for democracy. . .for a third time and it just got old.
You believe they were all in good faith? I’m convinced some, or even most of the people sending that message got exactly what they wanted.
Some, sure. Most of the time, I assume that when people say stupid shit, it’s because they believe something stupid. Usually because their stupid beliefs are parroted in a community of people which are driven by bad actors - like how most conservatives are feeding from the bad actors in Fox News and acting as a self-reinforcing circlejerk of bad opinions.
That’s certainly part of it. There are also those on the far left that would rather see acceleration towards collapse over another moderate in office. They may not have the numbers, but that doesn’t stop the message from affecting undecided voters.
Everything that’s coming: If you didn’t vote, you voted for it. If you voted Shill Stein, you voted for it. If you voted Trump and you “didn’t know it would be this way”, you’re as complicit as the non-voters and the boutique voters.
Deliberate ignorance, a lack of critical thinking, and the propaganda that you allowed to game your emotions were all at play here.
I can at least understand that line of thinking. He spent a lot of his first term golfing. He didn’t build the border wall or repeal the ACA or do a lot of what he promised his supporters he would.
Still not an excuse. He did incredible damage in his first term and I expect this one to be worse.
And he’s not even saying he’s going to do Project 2025 but I expect him to.
He didn’t have presidential immunity, both branches of Congress, and the Supreme Court. And now he has all the Project 2025 people who are far more hungry for human misery than he is. And they’re happy to do his job for him.
Man, a local (Canadian) news chain had a pro Trump panelist on a show and that was always her argument. I hope they fucking apologize for giving her a platform when shit hits the fan.
I’d respect a massive third party turnout vote, though. At least it shows there is an untapped and active voter base who will show up.
Not voting is just saying that you don’t care. And there were several down ballot elections that were things that leftists say they care about, including ranked choice voting in several states.
I voted for Harris.
That said, a non-participant is objectively less culpable for electing Trump than someone that voted for Trump.
It’s ridiculous how many are clearly more angry at non-participants than Trump’s actual voters.
This system is captured by oligarchs, I vote for least worst out of harm reduction, not hope, and I’m not mad at the people that understand that this ship IS going to sink out of greed/capital market worship regardless of ® or( D), both of which are still selling the lifeboats to the highest bidder beholden to the free market that crashed us into the iceberg, and said fuck it, they’re going to get drunk raiding the bar instead of getting in line to vote on whether to start shooting stowage passengers for kicks® as we all sink.
If you want people to vote for the “leftwing” party in droves, turn it an actual leftwing party with a platform of remaking our economy to reward labor over speculative investment, and making wealth hoarding to the point of being able to buy your own government and Regulators a thing of the past through taxation and even confiscation over certain levels to be put into the commons like education, clean public transport, Healthcare, etc.
Hell, I’ll knock on every door in my state if the Democrats abandoned their neoliberalism and became the party of FDR again with a New New deal. But they won’t do that, because they’d rather have fascism than stop taking the corporate bribe money that Reagan made them junkies for.
Bro, the boat is sinking, some people are bailing it out, some people are drilling holes into the bottom and some people are standing around talking about how they just can’t bring themselves to bail the boat out. They don’t get credit for not drilling holes. That’s not a thing.
You know the Nazi in a bar story where the barman kicks the Nazi out because having a single Nazi in the bar means it’s a Nazi bar? Well it’s the same fucking shit in politics. You don’t vote or you vote third party, knowing full well that you’re opening the door to a Nazi to take power? It means you don’t mind a Nazi taking power therefore you’re a Nazi.
They shouldn’t get credit or blame.
Again, neoliberals are trying to conflate the people drilling the holes(Trump voters) in the ship with people standing around.
Mad at her for what? Having little power as VP? Being out on the ballot? Even if she said no, the Dem party leadership would just have to quickly push someone in the same manner. All of the excuses are either complete bullshit or Trump would be worse. So stupid…
But at least Peanut is avenged
This is so Stupid. Nobody’s mad at Harris. She’s like Dry Toast. I don’t hate it, but I don’t love it either.
I have many many leftist friends that are actually mad at Harris for supporting Israel. Saw a ton of it on social media prior to the election. Wouldn’t be surprised is most of them abstained from voting.
