I’m going to be ignoring the news for the next couple years. “Trump Did Something Horrific,” followed by nothing of any consequence but “raising awareness.”
Wake me up when there’s a real resistance.
I’m not American and will do the same. The amount of artificial and inflated drama is just unbearable. Not for another four years.
“Trump said this unacceptable thing!!!1!” followed by a few days of outrage, nothing changes, then he says another stupider shit a few days layer and the cycle continues.
In a way I’m sure the media are very happy for that Trump win. They’re gonna have some drama every fucking day.
Ah yes the embodiment of the French Revolutionaries spirit. Paraphrasing the slogan, wasn’t it something like
“wake me up my brothers after the king gets beheaded, why would I go out with my pitchfork if nothing’s gonna happen”.
I can’t speak to others but it’s exhausting. All the “did something illegal” “got egg on the face of the US” “made a clown of himself”. I can only be outraged for so long before I’m burned out. I’ve voted every election big and small. I’ve argued and talked with people about how bad this could be. I’ve told people who didn’t know there are still literal wars going on and how there is an avenue for ww3. People don’t care or they think trump is the one to see us through and any changes he wants to make are good.
What else can I do? I’m not going to take up arms because I still believe in our democracy.
Looking at US politics from across the pond, there seems to be a healthy dose of activism, except it’s exclusively online.
Unfortunately nowadays this is totally irrelevant, because it’s so easy to counter by anyone with money to burn.
When people have actually gathered (mostly unions) they have found success.
If there is no enforcement then there is no law.
How about we do something about it instead of expecting someone else to?
I don’t even know what this text is in reference to and I have no concrete suggestions immediately. But I will be thinking, connecting, and sharing in the coming months as a strategy emerges. Trumpism can still be defeated. The election was plan A but it’s time to come up with plan B. I am thinking that it’s going to take massive organized civil disobedience. We directly disrupt their ability to govern and harm marginalized people.
But it’s going to take more than just me, so I ask everyone here to be ready and participate in whatever capacity you can.
My “text” is a direct response to your comment that proceeded it. Im not sure how that’s confusing.
The fact of the matter is the election results are legal, certified, and recognized by every country on Earth. As much as I hate it, and I really really hate it, that’s reality.
Unless things get ridiculously out of hand, which has yet to be seen, the only real thing anyone can do is create protests and marches, and vote for change when the time comes.
If you think you’re going to create a “resistance army” you’re going to be checked very hard by reality. Your little keyboard warrior “massive organized civil disobedience” will be as lame as Jan 6.
I went to DC and yelled at a bunch of brutalist buildings. I’m sure someone in one of those knows a guy who knows someone who sometimes gets close enough to see a representative. I did my part!
There’s a reason peaceful protest is legal, and that’s because it seldom accomplishes anything meaningful.
if you want things to change, first you have to find a way to be able to confidently say “I’m ready for things to change”. Then, you have to help other people find a way to say it too. And when there’s finally enough people, nobody has to “go first”.
I mean that’s a nice sentiment, but it’s not the late 19th century anymore. Even if it was, that’s not really how revolutions worked in the past.
The majority of revolutions that have been successful in the past have sprung from pre-arranged hierarchical bodies like the military. There is a reason the US military was developed to be domestically apolitical, and is forbidden to operate in any real sense within the United States.
If there is some sort of revolution it’s perfectly reasonable to assume there will be Martyrs, it’s also perfectly reasonable to not want to willingly participate in martyrdom.
It’s the perennial coordination problem. Consider these truths: 1. Anybody who stands up alone will get viciously hammered down. 2. If a large number of people stand up together, they can make a difference. 3. People have to trust others to stand up with them, otherwise see #1.
How do we organize a large crowd of people that trust each other without the people in power catching wind of it and viciously hammering down the organizers? It sure would help to have some support from people already in positions of power…
This is part of why, as much grief as it gets, the 4B movement is something that can plausibly gain traction. Because it doesn’t really require anyone “outing” themselves and thus putting themselves at risk, it can be done without coordination, leadership, and trust. Boycotts function on a similar premise.
They are a useful tool in some ways, but the issue is the relatively limited scope of what these sorts of efforts can accomplish.
Trump will go down in history as the world’s most successful career criminal.
Can you imagine siding with the political party that got completely decimated by a career criminal on a national level?
You lost the plot at “siding”. I know you’re incapable of understanding this, but “sides” aren’t a thing when it comes to fascism. Every neck has the same boot on it, some of us just decided we don’t want to kiss it.
You deep throat it all you want, it’ll keep your ass nice and safe and warm for when the long dick of the law comes round to fuck it.
Is it really a law if it’s unenforceable?
Is it really justice when laws cannot be applied to presidents as the founding fathers argued that doing so would interfere with president’s purported ability to govern - even if they commit crimes?
The USA is comically naive in assuming presidents would act honorably and would respect the law voluntarily.