9 points

Tbf, theyre still counting some ballots, although minimal

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So Trumps base is just his base. It’s the 100million plus over 18 and probably eligible to vote (extrapolated from 2020 census numbers, with 77.9% over 18) folks sitting this one out or voting 3rd party.

What were the 2016 numbers? I bet his base is right there near 74mil again.

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Hillary 65,853,514

Trump 62,984,828

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Dang I can’t believe Hillary lost with 3 million more votes. That’s insane considering Harris could have won ALL the swing states other than Florida for around a million votes.

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4 points

You and me both. Imagine where we’d be without Trump.

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199 points

Cool! Key takeaway for me from this is Trump didn’t get more popular, Dems just got way less popular. Kind of brings a bit of my hope in humanity back a little

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10 points

Still kinda sucks that the Dems lost popularity. I wonder if it would have been different if Biden was on ticket.

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1 point

It would have been worse.

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It isn’t hard for me to believe that 1 in 8 people would refuse to vote for someone because their gender or color.

On a side note, I’m getting older and losing touch with new music, but are women’s punk rock bands not as popular as I once remember them being or what? The world could use a little more fuck the patriarchy.

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Ugh that’s depressing but I think you’re right.

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Somehow Kamala is the patriarchy though?!:-P

Not as much as The Donald, ofc, but Kamala came across as being basically the same as Joe Biden, or at least it looks like that was what she was aiming for.

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Im not sure, but I feel like girl led punk rock is making a resurgence lately, though the definition of what punk rock is may be arguable

Grlwood is an artist that comes to mind, but there are others for sure

Checkout ‘fuck me up’ from them

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Honestly there’s almost no way a sitting president gains popularity but considering his stance on Israel and stuff he sure as hell would lose some. I honestly don’t think it would have been better.

Maybe being more policy specific would have helped Kamala. But the Democrats just have so much PR damage they haven’t addressed over time, they are not doing themselves any favors. Humility can be an incredible thing but if you’re a politician being humble is the hardest thing to fake, so if you’re not, you’re not gonna try if you’re smart enough.

As a leftist (not in the US though) we just gotta take the L and that’s that. I’ll be waiting for the drop in support for Republicans after the fact and the following damage report from Rumpsteak’s presidency. Let’s just hope we get a competent cleaning crew to deal with the damage.

Also reminder that I’m on the hindsight 20/20 high horse so it’s very easy to criticize, but I genuinely thought Kamala had a chance and it was a good idea so it’s not like I make a good oracle lol.

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I’m always confused by the need for the Democrats to be more policy specific, when they’re the only party that actually shares any policy.
I feel like people aren’t saying they’re unsure of the specifics of Kamala’s policy points, so they’re going to instead vote for the guy who rambles incoherently for an hour about evil Mexicans.

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Most of the world are voting out standing governments cause times are hard all over. Don’t think they really could have done anything. It’s just part of the trend.

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I wonder if it would have been different if Biden was on ticket.

It would have been way, way worse.

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20 points

I think it would’ve been significantly worse had he been still running

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Not only every single polling data indicates otherwise, but lots of analysis are also identifying Harris’ interview on the View, where she stated that “nothing comes to mind” when they asked her what would she have done differently from Biden as one her campaigns biggest blunders.

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Their focus on everything but the economy during the campaign killed them. If they’d announced a major economic stimulus campaign to get folks back to where they were before the pandemic they’d have won. That gaffe on The View pegged Kamala as completely out of touch with what’s going on for working class people (who are struggling, and have been struggling for quite some time.)

From what I could tell the campaign platform was “We’re not trump, and btw we support women and we ❤️ PoC/LGBTQ+” (which is essentially the same campaign Hillary ran and lost with.)

They didn’t brag about how many jobs they created with the infrastructure spending acts and didn’t announce any further plans to keep that going. If they did then they certainly failed to fill the air with it. There was no message of change and hope which, let’s be honest, after 35+y of leaving the bottom 80% out of the Wall St economy a huge number of people were waiting to hear.

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I don’t see how her statement can be considered a blunder in a world where the winner jacked off his microphone, had a full on dementia sundowning episode during a town hall, and espoused at length about the hog Arnold Palmer was crankin’.

What was Kamala gonna do to top that? Peg JD’s favorite couch on stage, and then motorboat Cardi B while Carmen plays in the background?

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3 points

It would have been even worse.

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117 points

The fact that anyone voted for Trump killed my hope in humanity

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47 points

In 2016.

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45 points

Even more so in 2024, since we now saw exactly how he would be. He’s added 37 felony counts, the whole classified documents debacle, and more to his resume.

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1 point

In 2016 he was a protest vote and he was a joke, by 2020 and 2024 he was no longer a joke he was full on fascism.

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3 points

When the final count is done, the sad news is that he did get more popular. And the wildest thing is the demographics that he got more popular with.

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It’s actually crazy to see how little his numbers changed. Like, in the grand scheme of things, they didn’t change at all. 500,000 more people. Across the country. That’s nominal.

If the democrats continue to push this narrative that “swing voters” decided this election, we know we are well and truly fucked.

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The fact people couldn’t be bothered still destroyed my hope. I know people who didn’t vote because of single issues like gaza. Well not voting sure helped the situation.

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16 points

I’m reporting this. Not beautiful. Very painful. Make me cry.

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Although I’ve been pointing at these numbers as well, it’s worth noting that the effects of the electoral college is still important.

Dem votes were up in PA and GA from 2020. Maybe other swing states as well, haven’t looked. Trump’s just went up more.

Either way, I think all of the brilliant minds who decided to withhold their votes for Kamala for whatever reason maybe weren’t being very pragmatic given the reality of the binary outcome set.

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We must be truly desperate to look to the electoral college for help.

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