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were soviet computers ruined too?

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In debian and graphene we trust

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I’ll repost comment I did recently:

I remember how few yesrs ago I said “capitalism exists because perfect replicators do not exist”. Eventually I realised that perfect replicators of information already exist and capitalists made sure we can’t use them against capitalism.

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When computers became mainstream and all sorts of media got into the open Web, many have seen this as the end of copyright history.

But it wouldn’t be capitalism if it wouldn’t build sophisticated instruments and twist legislation in unprecedented ways only to protect publishers.

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Capitalism was a necessary step in the development of socialism. It wasn’t a mistake, it’s just run its course. Just a technicality I know and I shouldn’t overanalyze but I felt it was worth stating

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That’s like saying “everything happens for a reason” to someone whose whole family has just been murdered.

No. Capitalism was never necessary.

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But nothing is actually necessary. It depends on what you want to achieve.

The speed of innovation might have gotten a big impulse by capitalism; I’m not sure if we’d technologically be where we are now otherwise. Of course one could argue that we do not need tech in its current form, which is fair.

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But nothing is actually necessary. It depends on what you want to achieve.

Food, water, shelter, sustainability, those are necessary (as are human rights and an equal, equitable, and just society), commodifying the necessities of existence and survival of the human race to make a handful of people massive amounts of money and power never has been, and never will be, necessary.

The speed of innovation might have gotten a big impulse by capitalism

Lmmfao

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2020/08/how-capitalism-stifles-innovation

I’m not sure if we’d technologically be where we are

Lmmfao again, thanks

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/mar/18/fully-automated-luxury-communism-robots-employment

Truth is you’ve been brainwashed, by capitalism to think it is a good, necessary, and even natural thing, when in truth it has existed for the tiniest blips in human history (and in its short existence has cost, and continues to cost tens of millions of lives annually, not to mention the health of the planet, and that of the remaining working class), and you’ve been taken in by an appeal to tradition, rather than truth or reality, to ensure you don’t start considering what is outside of the box, or system, you’ve been trapped in since birth.

And evidently, it’s worked.

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Yeah, but you’re talking to an authoritarian, so lots of people being hurt for the benefit of the few is always “necessary”

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We were never going to transition directly from feudal society to socialism, the peasant class could not organize in those conditions to rise up against their opressor. Capitalism developed the material conditions necessary for a truly liberatory revolution rather than a passing over of keys from one ruler to another.

Yes capitalism is responsible for truly horrific things, that is why it needs to be dismantled and replaced. However, it also concentrated the working class into closer quarters and developed the machinary necessary to move past scarcity.

Sure yeah maybe we could have transitioned from hunter gatherer society to socialist agrarianism and never developed the power structures we see today but that didn’t happen for a reason. Agriculture solved the food problem of hunter gatherer societies, feudalism solved the military problem of early agrarian societies that left them vulnerable, capitalism solved the technological development problem of feudalist societies that caused them to stagnate and socialism will solve the resource problem that causes capitalist societies to constantly murder eachother and themselves. Note all of these social structures caused the problems that necessitated the next reorganization of society.

Also, telling someone who isn’t already socialist/communist/anarchist that capitalism was a mistake will seem rediculous if they live a comfortable life.

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