See the problem with this stupid labeling is that everyone has a different definition so no one knows what the fuck anyone else is saying. Just knock it off with the labels, attribute the quality or idea you mean instead of a lazy fucking label…
You know how many conversations Ive been in where i was confused until i realized the word meant different things to us. Seriously the labeling in politics is getting out of control, everyone groups everything up into a category because it makes it easy to manipulate people against it, so noone knows what the word means anymore because everyone is defining it as something different every day.
Not using labels is double plus good…
The stupidity of American labels you mean, most of the rest of the work understands politics
Around 15-20 years ago these idiots so easily manipulated with labels in the US were only on the fringe (or at a minimum, less obvious in their existence), now they’re a political force. Do not sit there in smug self assurance that it definitely cant happen there, because that’s how it begins…
Then again I dont think the first world countries of the world have been cutting education for decades now. And you also didnt have Regan and Citizens United.
It fits alot of topics. People just stop learning by middle school and go through their lives ignorant to the world outside of their limited personal experience. It’s not surprising that the world’s population is so easily manipulated into being scared of everything…
Remember the poem? ‘First they came for the communists’. They never came for the liberals, they worked with them. There has always been a difference, and there will always be a difference.
Unconstrained campaign financing and lobbying will always dilute the power of democracy and liberalism, but liberalism is a good alternative to bloody revolutions or forced changes. Humanist philosophies prefer liberalism to some degree, but I could be wrong 🤷♀️
Interesting, is it not, that liberalism was the bloody revolution against tyranny until now it threatens to kill humanity itself and all reform must then be gradual.
Not necessarily, democracy has often come about without blood shed. I am unconvinced the practical implementations of far left ideals are going to be devoid of human nature. Committees responsible for production vs CEO managing it does not still preclude greed or popularity contests. The in fighting in left leaning groups is a distraction. First tax the rich enough so that they cannot subvert democracy, everything is secondary
By definition absolutely. But most countries’ “Liberal Party” is almost always conservative.
Not by definition at all.
A political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
It’s not necessarily right either, but it’s closer to that than left.
Just to add a little bit to it:
“The greatest good for the greatest number”, a basic leftwing principle, sometimes collides with “everybody should be free to do what they want with their own things and willing adults”, a basic liberal principle, for example when it comes to some people excessivelly hoarding resources or using their ownership of an exclusive resource to extract rents from others, because it goes against the “greatest good for the greatest number” even whilst it is aligned with the whole freedom to do what they want with their own things.
At other times both are perfectly aligned: for example when it comes to the freedom from discrimination for those with a different sexual orientation than the majority, since that freedom both fulfills the “the greatest good” principle and the “freedom to do what they want” one.
Now, if one really digs down on it, maximum freedom turns out to actually require different ownership laws (if exclusive resources have owners rather than being shared, then the freedom of the non-owners is being restricted), but in decades of following and even being involved in politics, I have yet to hear a single Liberal (even those who supposedly are not Neoliberal) even mention that specific form (probably the most widespread and highest impact one) of restriction on the Freedom of most people, much less suggest changing it.
The irony that you used that episode to emphasize your point is not lost on me.
