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It was Fascism vs. Fascism Lite

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Shit like this is why Trump won.

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It’s the truth, plain and simple. Your refusal to see it is part of the problem

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7 points

Democrats are Republicans Lite. MAGA are fascists.

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11 points

I voted.

But something like 16 million fewer Americans voted this year compared to 2020. That’s an insanely large number of people who simply didn’t vote.

Thats why Trump won.

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Those people didn’t vote because people like you convinced them there was no difference and therefore no point in voting.

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I just checked the current vote counts because everyone is repeating election night totals, which hadn’t yet accounted for a lot of votes that were still being tallied. The current difference between 2020 and 2024 is about 5.7 million votes. And they’re still not done counting in a few states. Trump won because the majority decided fascism is pretty cool, actually.

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So why would you not vote fascism lite? If you have two viable choices, and one is a worse version of the other, what possible benefit do you get for not increasing the odds of the less bad one? Fascism lite is taking the foot off the accelerator on fascism, which gives more opportunities to correct course. Fascism full flavor is flooring the pedal, and only makes it harder to do that. Voting for neither does not reduce the chances of one of the two winning.

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The reason usa has fascism is because the only alternative is fascism lite.

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And the reason those are our alternatives is that leftists are stingy with their vote. It’s called “incremental change” and it means you don’t turn your nose up at every imperfect candidate.

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It’s asshats like you that put us here, congrats!

BluE MaGa amiright?

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Don’t get mad at me. It’s not my fault the Democratic Party ignored a good portion of the country to pick up a handful of disaffected conservatives instead of courting any sort of progressive base. Which rightly blew up in their faces and helped make Harris deeply unpopular candidate to many.

Fucking Dick Cheney endorsed Harris. That easily pushed more left leaning people away from Harris. Dick Cheney, the guy who pushed the US to invade Iraq to get those pesky WMD’s… And we’re still dealing with the fallout of that decision.

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I’m still irritated at “most lethal military” she said repeatedly.

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You obviously don’t understand what fascism is. I recommend Umberto Eco’s essay "Ur-Fascism"as a good primer. Maybe read that before you make anymore ignorant comments like this one.

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Democrats aren’t great. At all. But to call them fascists is just ridiculous. They’re just liberal capitalists.

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Yeah, you have to scratch them first in the larval form.

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10 points

May as well not vote, right?

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I voted, but millions of Americans did not. That’s why Trump won. That, and the Democrats ignoring their base in favor of picking up a handful of disaffected conservatives.

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I wonder if the constant “both sides” bullshit has something to do with why millions of Americans didn’t vote

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Fascism is always a populist movement, by the time it’s on the ballot it’s already too late.

The so called left created the conditions for Trump by being the lesser evil instead of being better.

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15 points

Fuck that noise. Victim blaming bullshit.

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Those poow wittle democwats and their multi billion dollar super PACS…victims of the intolerant left! /s

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stick wheel victim .jpg

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Yeah… the dems are the victims, sure. /s

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The so called left Liberals created the conditions for Trump by being the lesser evil instead of being better.

Liberalism is right-wing. That’s why we had two right-wing candidates who are slightly different levels of fascist.

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52 points

Democrats continuing to blame everyone but themselves, as usual.

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The Democrats could have run a turd as a candidate with the slogan “it’ll be a shit show” and I’d still have voted for them with no regrets, because I understand that fascism is an existential threat. If the Democrats are to blame in any way, it’s because they didn’t try to get people to understand that OH WAIT THEY DID.

Should the Democrats have run a better candidate and a better campaign? Obviously yes. Is it their fault that voters were willing to let a fascist win? Not even a little.

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Guess what, not everyone thinks that, and a good politician would actually promise to improve people’s lives instead of continually talking about how bad the other guy is.

Trotting out the least popular Republicans ever as being on your side didn’t help either.

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not everyone thinks that

Yes, obviously not everyone thinks fascism is an existential threat. Which is probably one of our greatest failures as a society, in terms of education.

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That democrats weren’t even willing to budge on their support for genocide means that they don’t actually mind fascism. They can scream on and on about how dangerous trump is, but when they’re kissing dick cheney’s ass and trying to court other such “moderate” fascists, then they’re just full of shit. So yes, it is largely the fault of democrats, who are the only other viable party in the country, for not fighting fascism. They set themselves up as the only solution and then failed to get the votes. Reminder that this is the same party boosting the campaigns of far-right candidates just so they can point at how crazy their opponents are. All they’re accomplishing is helping out the fascist cause, which again, democrats don’t seem to mind based on their actions.

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They didn’t “set themselves up as the only solution.” We have First Past the Post voting, that’s just how it works.

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I’m with you that fascism is alive and well in the states, no doubt.

But you have to see that years of “fascist” accusations from anyone even slightly left has watered down any impact that language might have had. Most people who are and have been on the receiving end of that accusation just roll their eyes when they hear the word - regardless if it’s true or not. It comes off to them as a “blue hair” reee-ing.

Just letting you know most people don’t take it with the same gravity any more. To most people “real” fascism was a 1940’s thing, and fascism now is just an insult throw around by keyboard warriors and “SJWs” - whom they find annoying and pathetic.

The term, however appropriate, doesn’t affect people’s political decisions as much as you would think.

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9 points

R’s have learned to change their boogiemen occasionally while keeping them substantially similar. Is DEI or CRT substantially different then “Political correctness gone wild”? Not even a little. But it feels new.

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You’re defending the people who embraced the Cheneys and told Bernie and Tlaib to get fucked. Cutting off money and weapons to Israel- who represent only 2.4% of the US population- to end a genocide was the easiest possible win imaginable.

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If by “defending” you mean “placing blame where it belongs” then yeah.

Like, if a serial killer has killed ten people then gets charged with killing an eleventh, but he didn’t, then I’d “defend” him too because the person who actually did the crime is still out there and should be held accountable.

You’re making it out as if I’m trying to say the serial killer didn’t murder anybody. That’s not what I’m saying.

The Democrats fucked up, big time. But it’s the electorate who let a fascist win.

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Prepare to lose again 2028 with this attitude.

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So, what’s the takeaway here? Next time we should nominate better voters? Good luck with that. I think we should nominate candidates who can energize the voters we have.

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You would, but millions of Americans wouldn’t. Those Americans act out of self-interest, and the economy was the biggest pain point with most voters this past election.

Instead of catering to the middle class, what Dems’ base has been historically, Harris campaigned to business owners with tax incentives/breaks.

Democrats failed. Hell, Harris could have even lied just as Obama did to get Democrats and moderates to believe that she represents them. But she didn’t!

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I’ve reached across the aisle to vote for a conservative for 3 elections now against Trump. It would be nice if centrists and conservatives did the same.

If anything non-voter related is to blame, it’s the global economy which has shifted every single developed country away from the party in charge. But that doesn’t excuse the non-voters.

Now let’s get Ukraine everything we possibly can and put as much pressure on Israel as possible.

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I did my part. I voted third party because BOTH PARTIES SUPPORT A FASCIST REGIME COMMITTING GENOCIDE WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS WHILE OUR OWN PEOPLE GO HOMELESS

Cry about it libs! I bet going further right and further ignoring your base will win in 2028! Might as well run Liz Cheney while you’re at it!

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Yes that is the not voting against fascism the meme is talking about. You can label not doing your part as doing your part but it’s still not doing your part.

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Lmao lib shit tally:

Bullshit corporate media reference, check. Blaming the minority for the failure of the party, check Believing politics happens once every four years, check.

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