I went to bed Tuesday thinking I was going to wake up to much better news lol, I feel mislead
Reminds me of 2016. All the polls and guesses were Hillary had it in the bag. Woke up that morning feeling like someone sucker punched me.
I’ve been wary of predictions since then if for nothing else than to save me from developing a drinking problem to cope. Expect the worst and you’ll never be surprised.
We’ll have to see what happens when the final numbers come in, but I suspect the polls had it more wrong this time than in 2016. They actually weren’t that far off at that time. People forget that Hillary did actually win the popular vote, and the national polls were within margin of error. That might not be the case this time.
On Halloween I had a friend I thought was fairly Democratic say he was close to voting for Trump and that’s when I felt the dread.
He joked about the insane amount of spam texts he was getting, but no real answer. He did say he ended up voting Harris/Walz.
My moms’ voted for Trump I suspect and they’re avoided voting for Republicans for a long time because of homophobia. One of them would ask things like “do you think a woman can be president” and would talk about how great she thought the stock market would do under trump. They just retired, so their well-being is now a lot more dependent on the value of their 401k than before though, so it might just be that rather than broader trends. Otoh, I’ve also seen her listening to like 30+ minute snakes salesman things on Facebook and be seriously believing of the obvious scam.
Instead of a red mirage, we got a blue stayathomeandnotvote. Harris got 10-13M votes less than Biden in 2020, and even Trump seems to be getting less votes than the last time (counting still ongoing). I was told there would be a record turnout in this election.
Yep. It’s truly been an election that’s not missing drama. Two assassination attempts, sitting president dropping out with 4 months left, open fascism, couch fucking, non-white female runner for the first time, all polls absolutely incorrect… Just to get an orange shit heap to fuck over Ukraine, Palestine and our climate. Could Igo back to the boring Obama years, please?
Again the polls seemed to be OK. I need to have the article ready with the headline “We are a normal polling error away from a landslide victory for either candidate”.
Shifted, or did the minorities who previously voted for Democrats stay home this time?
It’s both. Diaper boy did better than ever with black and hispanic voters. Turnout was also lower.
Sure is!.. and deciding to change candidate without a democratic primary was part of finding that out.
Gen-Z men also shifted towards Trump.
So progress is unfortunately not linear, but can slip back to darker times. Which is not great.
Edit: Also, though I think lots of Trump voters vote for him because he’s unusual. They see him as a vote against the usual. Against establishment candidates, and against the standard social-political contract. So establishment candidates being disconnected from what voters actually want is a big part of it.
No, right-wing extremist propaganda pushed by the algorithms of youtube and tiktok suppressed the turnout.
That’s the thing about records: they aren’t always positive/in the trajectory you are hoping for
Or are we down to republican level of accepting losing?
Lemme play devil’s advocate and ask if that would really be such a bad thing if we were considering being an unhinged lunatic gets your people elected.
People did turn out though, so many states reported record turnout, yet… this…
Did people just go to the polls, see the choices and go “Eh… nevermind” and go home? Like millions of people?
I tried to warn people. But no one here wanted to listen.
Blue shift when?
