Essentially, there have been two reactions over on grad today:

  1. I didn’t vote, neither of the candidates were going to stop the war in the Gaza Strip, therefore, there could be no good outcome for the US, therefore I can’t be held accountable
  2. I voted for a third party, which Republicans will have to acknowledge and respect
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I’m foreign so I’m keeping out of the inevitable political arguments. Just be mindful of the rules and report those who break em

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“There wasn’t a no genocide option, so I decided the more genocide option was fine.”

The lives of minorities aren’t worth a handful of minutes to tankie fucks.

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“I’m white and don’t care, so what’s the difference between one genocide and three?”

Millions of lives.

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But drag, how can we pretend to be superior to other leftists, if we aren’t enabling greater amounts of genocide? /s

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If we forget the polarisation, could we kiss both slurping on the same 30ct instant ramen noodle? 👉 👈 (srs)

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This was my ex. A single issue voter about a war another country is waging. Fuck Israel but got damn letting Ukraine die because of your fuckin morals is ridiculous.

Lefties suck, they don’t have their way and don’t vote. This is why no progress happens.

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Agreed

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I wouldn’t call people like that a leftist. Left is progress, Right is conservatism. Their choices led to less progress so they’re not lefties.

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They’re simply not very smart, and they’re impatient like children.

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Imagine using JucheStalin unironically as your username…

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In what way can you purge slavs more/faster than NK purges non-Juche Koreans?

Turbo-kim

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The tide is sure as fuck going to be shifted. They got that part right.

If you want a preview about how any of these dummies that are actually in the US are going to behave, look for the reaction of the civilian Germans after World War 2. For the most part, it was, “This is awful and unfair, I can’t believe they would be so mean to us, when we didn’t even do anything.”

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That reaction was tune down, due to the country being occupied. It pretty much took the Nazis having to shut up for a few decades, by threat of prison to end up with a somewhat pro democracy population.

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I struggle to understand how they’re so delusional about their number of potential fighters.

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Except not like germany because American Exceptionalism

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Please do not compare Nazi Germany to the US. The Holocaust was and is very real to a lot of people and you are disrespecting those who were murdered.

You can hate the US all you want. Just don’t casually about talk Nazi Germany like it was some random historical event. Millions of people died.

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There are people who went through the holocaust who compared Trump in 2016 to Hitler. They, if anyone, understand the gravity of the comparison, and made it a little bit carefully. But they said that the way he speaks, the way everyone who is his enemy is an animal who must be destroyed, is very similar.

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I’d like to spin your argument into the other direction.

During the 3rd Reich and the years leading up to it, Hitler used the financial crisis, poverty and unemplyment to emtionalize people in order to make them vote for the NSDAP. His party/regime used a psudoscientific and non-factual ideology to dehumanize a part of the population. In this case most prominently jews but other ethnicities, gays, lesbians, disabled, too.

Let’s compare this to Trump and see how accurate the comparison is. There is a financial crisis right now, not as bad as the great depression, but a lot of people in America struggle to meet month’s end from what I understand. Trump uses this, talking about tarrifs and boosting the american economy. He also doesn’t rely on facts or logic in his program. He claims bizarre things like “windmills will give you cancer through the sound they emit” to push against renewable energy and the protection of climate and nature. He also dehumanizes parts of the american population. In his first term he banned Muslims from entering the US. using the already very latent distrust/ hate against the muslim population. He called for a wall on the mexican border, claiming mexican immigrants are through and through criminals, alledgedly endangering US citizens, when in actuality southern states are highly dependent on these immigrants to take low wage jobs in agriculture. Also, as laughable as it is: “They eat the cats” is part of that, too. He also has follows an anti-lgbtq+ ideology.

Hitler of coursed lived in a different time and people back then faced slightly different problems, but the patterns are similar. The goals are similar. They both follow an ideology that values people differently, based on percieved usefullness to a nationalist image of society.

Not comparing right-extremist leaders to the third Reich, not holding them up against that is, disrespectful to those who suffered. Trump has not comitted a genocide, but the ideology he popularized opens the gates far and wide for abuse of any kind. So I believe that we should compare him to Hitler to make it very clear where his actions could very realistically lead.

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