This analysis on Tildes was spot on: https://tildes.net/~health.mental/1jwf/american_election_mental_health_thread#comment-e0uw
Perhaps if we had embraced the working class whites 20 years ago, things would be different today. Perhaps we could have working and lower class folks of all backgrounds voting for abortion rights, women’s rights, labor rights, and gay rights. Maybe they would be our most loyal allies. But instead, we abandoned them and let the wolves pretend to be their friends.
A key takeaway for me is that when people of color and those in inner cities turn to violence, crime, and drugs, we blame the oppressive system for their failings. When people in rural America do the same, we blame them. Just because someone is white doesn’t mean they don’t need sympathy and compassion. We’ve lost the thread of love and acceptance in this country.
And it seems the ability to math. All this blame (it was always going to come to this blame game) being pointed at this or that demographic seems to miss the point that the popular vote was won by trump, that does not happen if the majority of voters did not vote for him. It seems crazy that people can blame the white men in the country voting counter to woman’s overall rights, but not blame woman who voted the same way.
People forget that women can be misogynist too. It’s pretty common in the church.
I live in a deep red state where my vote effectively does not count. Yesterday morning, I woke to an absurd amount of hip/back pain and could barely stand up. Yet I still drug my ass to the polls and stood in line for my turn to vote.
Whatever happens, I blame the fickle morons who stayed home. The parties, platforms, politics, etc. are what they are, if you can’t be bothered to at least vote for the lesser of two evils, then you deserve everything you get.
No, I will not reside myself to think democrats did everything they could have. The only thing the democrats have done in my lifetime is lead people straight into shark infested waters. I’m not saying I won’t ever vote for them again but I don’t see them ever winning anything of substance if they can’t beat trump.
The fact that Trump was chosen for a president, might be a nice clue that Americans live in a idiocracy now.
I’m not American. I live in Europe.
But I’ll give an insight. Socdem party lost support for most people because they systemically failed to address the issues of the working class.
People can have empathy for other people’s problems. But when no one cares about your problems a ñnd election after election they ask you to vote them because empathy to others, and never for your own good, because they never do anything for you. And your life keeps getting worse and worse, and still they refuse to address your problems, and keep wanting your vote just for “stopping fascism” or “being solidary”… You can do that for one election, maybe two… But at some point you just phase out, you just cannot care anymore. If they don’t do anything for you, and you need something being done, you just don’t vote.
And seeing the low democratic turnout in the US, I think it may be the answer. Maybe people that didn’t show up yesterday is people that needed their problem solved the last 4 years and they just got ignored by the Democratic party. So they just didn’t vote the Democratic party out of spite.
I will actually probably won’t vote in my country next election. Fully knowing that the conservative and fascist parties will win and form a coalition government.
But SocDem and Communists have been ruling 8 years and they failed to address my issues. I cannot, in good conscience, keep giving them my vote knowing what they are doing with it. I just have my dignity. I will stand against the altRight on my own terms when they’ll raise to power if necessary, but I’ll refuse to give my vote to anyone who didn’t deserve it.
I dont understand that sentiment… i mean yes, i agree the parties should absolutely do more and listen to their voters… but the fact of the matter you have to play the game because the alternative is worst. You think noone listens to you now? What makes you think letting the opposition win will do for you? It will only make your life worse.
Do you think the governments in 1930’s europe appeared out of thin air? No, they were elected until they held enoigh power to consume total power. Literally tens of millions of people suffered all over the world because people became complacent.
Dont ever give up hope vote for the lesser evil and push for more grass roots movements so the lesser evil will become the even lesser. If you dont, you may never have that freedom again.
heres a game, i have a hot iron, you will press your hand to it and i will role a dice, the first role is with a d6 if it lands on 1 i will give you £30, the second time i will role a d12 if again it lands on 1 i will give you £30, this dice becomes progressively bigger and your odds smaller the longer this game runs. will you continue to play the game?
So as long the alternative is worse. Yes. You think an hot iron is uncomfortable? Try being thrown in pot of boiling oil. Thats the alternative.
Pretty spot on from my perspective. I did vote but it was more because there we’re two proposals on the ballot that I did care about. If not for those I would have probably skipped voting. I’m just exhausted at this point because my life has continued to worsen as long as I’ve been an adult and everyone’s fixated on LGBT and other shit that doesn’t even affect me or most of the other people that feel the need to have an opinion on it. We can just let people live their lives… What about housing, healthcare, wages, and all the other basic quality of life shit that helps everyone?
On top of that my vote for president didn’t matter anyway because the district I’m in would always go red and for most of the local positions there aren’t even democrat or even 3rd party options.
Correct. Democrats - especially the more SJW ones - keep advocating for the end of the Gaza genocide (which is a legitimate point) but won’t offer any hope for own citizens who can’t make ends meet due to inflation. Then the only choice is to vote to the other guy who promises those things. It is not that the other guy can improve this but at least he acknowledged that it was a problem that bothers voters.
Is it ok to criticise the Dems again?
