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I like the prospect of more Linux hardware hitting the market with officially supported distros. The European Union should be funding this kind of stuff to supplant Microsoft within its borders.

Anti Commercial-AI license

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15 points

agreed

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11 points

Imagine all the innovation if they did that!

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Far from my distro of choice but better compatibility with one distro usually translates to similar improvements on the others.
I’m very interested in the framework laptops, a 14" UHD touchscreen one would be an instant buy, the current lineup is still tempting nonetheless.

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45 points

That’s the beauty of Linux. The tide raises all ships.

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Agreed, a slight bump to 14" would be welcome. And maybe a more modern looking bottom shell, even for existing upgrade.

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4 points

I feel similar but with a 16-17” 3K resolution. Honestly it’s the biggest thing keeping me away from a Linux laptop and in my ancient 15” MacBook Pro.

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Good stuff good stuff. Have been a Mac user for years now. But the Framework laptops sure are tempting. Then it will be Linux all the way. More free and more sustainable.

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Hopefully Apple will be forced to become repairable again like during pre-2015.

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Oh yeah, with my 2008 MBP I have had replaced multiple parts and the screen. To try that now is a fools errand.

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Don’t hold your breath

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I have had gone Mac because framework wasn’t selling in my country, but got an email about two weeks back that they started selling here too, so once my macbook dies or becomes too slow I will be buying a framework

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Same.
I think I would need comparable energy efficiency as well though. For portable machines it’s hard to go for an x86_64 one when I can get so much more battery life out of an arm one.
Getting official support for a distribution should help with a good out of the box battery life at least. But I think they’d need arm or riscv before it really becomes comparable?

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The news of arch with valve and mint with framework brings a smile to my face.

Preinstalled linux will become more common place.

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In my experience, installing Linux Mint onto just about anything is trivial. IMO, the learning curve is more about using a different operating system than it being pre-installed.

That said, as long as you have a preconfigured distro like Linux Mint I think it’s about as easy to use as Windows or Mac. The main difference is that people are already used to how Windows or Macs work, and have forgotten there’s plenty of jank that they’ve learned to avoid. There are still things Linux could improve on w/r/t new user experience but I think the gap is getting smaller every year.

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Tbh, using Linux Mint feels really familiar and most software you can just install from the software center. In many ways it’s easier than setting up Windows. Sure, there are some specifics but for just every day use, there is not much of it.

I put off trying Linux for months, only to find it’s not really much change at all. I even at one point had to buy new Windows license because I was not in a place where I had capacity to fiddle with new stuff and it was such an unnecessary and huge mistake. Finally bitnthe bullet a couple of months after and I didn’t boot to Windows for months now - and the transition was super smooth. I changed my primary boot drive from Win to Mint very shortly after the transition.

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Friend, I am no Linux shill, but I switched to Mint last week on my secondary laptop, and let me tell you, it’s kinda cash and pretty easy.

I had to verify the integrity and authenticity of the Mint download itself, but it’s straightforward and tells you how to do that. Once you’re done, you install the OS just like you would with Windows.

Full disclosure, I don’t use the laptop for much, so no fiddling needed for me.

Edit: I guess I am shilling it, but I mean I’m not a Linux fanboy

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Linux Mint is easier than windows for basic shit, it pretty much has an app store for all your software needs ready to go too.

This month was my first move to linux and while I dont particularly no why I did it or where to go from here, it is definitely not a usability issue.

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if I have to do it all myself by following esoteric texts on the internet and pray to the silicon gods that everything works then I’m not gonna bother.

There’s more to Linux than arch. Mint, along with many others, is just as easy to install as windows.

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