Ukrainian president calls on countries to step in before troops sent to Russia by Pyongyang reach battlefield

Ukraine’s president urged allies to stop “watching” and take steps before North Korean troops deployed in Russia reach the battlefield, while the army chief said his troops were facing “one of the most powerful offensives” by Moscow since the full-scale war began.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy raised the prospect of a pre-emptive Ukrainian strike on camps where the North Korean troops are being trained and said Kyiv knows their location. But he said Ukraine can’t do it without permission from allies to use western-made long-range weapons to hit targets deep inside Russia.

“But instead … America is watching, Britain is watching, Germany is watching. Everyone is just waiting for the North Korean military to start attacking Ukrainians as well,” Zelenskyy said in a post late on Friday on the Telegram messaging app.

31 points

It is highly unlikely North Korea will cross the Ukrainian border. Putin can let them do defense while Russians do the offense. As we have learned in the middle east, defending and enabling war criminals does not equate being complicit in their war. Don’t ask me how that works.

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So having western troops in Ukraine should also be fine if they stop at the russian border right?

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We don’t want that

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Who’s “we”? Sounds like a proportionate response to me.

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This will start ww3.

Sorry but Ukraine is not my problem, no matter how the military industrial complex tries to push the narrative.

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The rise of ductators who want to seize other countries’ territories is your problem, and the sooner it’s stopped, the better it is.

When will it become your problem? I think you’re a US citizen so probably for you Lisbon (in Portugal, extreme West of Europe) could have Russian troops in it and you still wouldn’t care, right?

Well, thinking this way has proven to be so wrong because sooner or later you will be the next in line.

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“Czechoslovakia is not my problem” vibes. How did that end up?

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It wouldn’t start ww3, Russia is a joke power, they’d fold faster than superman on laundry day.

They are not serious people.

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If the sentiment is that they won’t you’d better just sucker punch them. I mean, the whole world wasn’t expecting Russia to invade, especially at the time they decided. If they’re in Russia they’re fair game imo. It’s war, don’t offer concessions, if you can kill them in their sleep you just do it and you’re glad it wasn’t you first. Nightly drones now, or air raid sirens all night later, such is life

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The US warned repeatedly that Russia was going to invade.

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I’m pretty sure they also thought he’d get spanked relatively quickly, and backpeddle within like a year after he lost enough war criminals and starving peasants who participated in his “special military operation”.

And it’s still going.

We really would be foolish at this point to make any more “It’s unlikely that…” assertions at this point… It’s all out crazy town now.

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They already have, with the enormous amount of weapons and ammunition they’ve been supplying to Russia. And they’re about to cross it again because North Korean soldiers are going to fight for Russia.

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When’s the last time nk boots landed somewhere to fight.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_North_Korea

The Ugandan Bush War, a few hundred personnel were involved apparently.

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That page was deleted and reorganized here under “Korea” - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Korea

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Huh. That literally just happened, because I was reading it before I posted the comment.

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Says the page has been deleted.

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? I was told right here on Lemmy that the NK soldiers are functionally useless, tactically inept, slowing down the Russian troops, have never seen anything with a transistor before, and are supplying shells with 80% misfire rates?

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It could be true, I guess. It could be Western propaganda too. It doesn’t take much to reason a country as underdeveloped and isolated as NK lacks an effective military.

However, maybe they don’t need to be particularly good to further Russia’s interests. NK army may be good enough as cannon fodder or purely for defence purposes, as border guards or patrols.

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Russia and Ukraine are two countries that have thrown everything they had at each other: from good soldiers, to inmates, to good people who’d probably never held a weapon before.

At this point I imagine that having troops who are alive and actual trained soldiers, not emotionally and physically drained (if not outright mutilated) by years of fighting is a big advantage

If I was taken from my home and suddenly sent to fight for my country, no matter how full of patriotic love I might be, one North Korean child with a knife would be enough to take me out.

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You were told this?

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? I was told right here on Lemmy that the NK soldiers are functionally useless, tactically inept, slowing down the Russian troops, have never seen anything with a transistor before, and are supplying shells with 80% misfire rates?

What part of “Let us stop the North Korean troops before they see the battlefield” contradicts that?

Or are you just looking to simp for fascists, as usual?

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If they were so inept as it’s said, Ukraine wouldn’t perceive them as this big of a ‘Help us ASAP stop them from reaching’ threat.

And since when is recognising the military power of an army simping for fascism?

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If they were so inept as it’s said, Ukraine wouldn’t perceive them as this big of a ‘Help us ASAP stop them from reaching’ threat.

10,000 warm bodies is 10,000 warm bodies. Or have you forgotten how Storm-Z units went?

And since when is recognising the military power of an army simping for fascism?

When it’s oriented around dismissal of the flaws of a military because it’s one of the commenter’s favorite fascist regimes? MLs are pretty predictable.

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Functionally useless just like the average Russian soldier, lacking equipment, food, training and likely suffering of medical complications. The thing is, in meat wave assaults it doesn’t matter. In fact their cheapness is a quality of its own.

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It was supposed to be South Korean fake news to manufacture consent for invasion of NK

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Juche too stronk. 💪

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I don’t get it. Are Ukrainiens still fighting? Why? What is Russia going to do? Give them money like they gave it to Chechens after the war? Just stop this stupid dying and surrender already. Save some of my money.

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And if the Russians went for your country too would you shout “surrender” then too? Do you have the slightest idea how much speech and media is controlled in Russia? Did the “joke” of Putin’s political opponents accidentally falling off windows not translate in your head that that’s not the type of govt to allow to rule over others?

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I totally would surrender. Definitely wouldn’t fight. Russians are not Israeli or Americans. They actually include people into their country instead of genociding/exploiting them for one resource or another.

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