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  • Swedish Minister wants to deport migrants who do not hold Swedish citizenship if they show support to terrorist groups.
  • The spokesperson for migration policy in Sweden wants the law to be even more stringent - to include anyone who shows such acts of support.
  • Tourists, citizens, and residence permit holders can all be affected by such changes.
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Yes, anyone who supports Israel should be deported to The Hague.

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5 points

Good, immigrants who support terrorism don’t belong in Sweden or any other Western country.

Send them back and let them live with the organization they support.

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I was about to say you are braindead, but it seems you are just American, I am really sorry.

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Racism and sycophantic nationalism seems to be alive and well elsewhere in the world…

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The issue here is citizens are still allowed to support terrorist organisations since it’s part of free opininon and free speech. So it’s a discriminatory law, which is against the principle of rule of law and equality before the law.

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If you read the article it states they are targeting non Citizens.

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Yes.

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Yeah, this suuuurely won’t be used to silence pro-Palestine protestors.

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If they are non citizen immigrants and are advocating for terrorist organizations who incite violence then they aren’t a good fit for a Western Democracy and should be deported.

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Support for Palestine is not support for a terrorist organization. But a law such as this could be used on a pro-Palestinian organizer on the false claim that support for Palestine is support for hamas.

Also, deported where exactly?

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Because what we’ve found is governments are so good at determining who is right in a particular conflict.

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If they are non-citizen immigrants advocating for organizations who use violence to attain their goals then they are not a good fit for Western Democracies and should be deported.

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Especially if they immigrated from a western democracy. They need to go back to their hive of evil and treachery. Pesky democracy havers.

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I’m about it. The immigrants have honestly fucked up sweden so badly. It’s all my family back over there can talk about.

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sounds like you should get a second opinion

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It’s a bad situation. Muslim culture is incompatible with Swedish values. This is why Sweden is starting to lean to the right and there is growth with the nazis. The Swedes are very kind people and they wanted to help but this mass Muslim migration has backfired on them pretty bad. There are now much more attacks on women and LGBT people. The crime has skyrocketed. Rapes have skyrocketed. I travel back and forth between the USA and Sweden often to visit family, and have steadily watched how things have gotten worse.

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None of this is true. Where do you get this information?

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i mean, no. there is nothing in “Muslim culture” about forming criminal gangs and throwing grenades. this is all about our social systems breaking down due to being overloaded. it’s an integration failure on the state’s part. people were put in places that were already not well off and that forms societal black holes where it is very difficult to get away. organized crime then seems very attractive.

the attacks on women and hbtq+ people are by those selfsame nazis. crime has, interestingly enough, stayed the same. violent crime has risen, yes, but other crime has fallen as a result.

rapes have not skyrocketed. this is a common right-wing talking point outside of sweden, and “ex-pats” love using this as an example of how the country has gone to shit. what actually happened was we changed the way crimes are reported, to make things that were formerly sexual harassment classify as rape of some degree. this is a good thing, as it highlights these behaviours as unacceptable rather than them just being tolerated.

honestly, it sounds like you should talk to more people while visiting.

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13 points

Is the BDS movement classified as a terrorist organisation? What about ANTIFA?

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The law proposal doesn’t affect citizens (according to the government). So it’s a law specifically meant to be unequal.

Citizen? Cheer for terrorists all you want! It’s your right!

Non-citizen? Deportion.

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Where would Swedish government deport native Swedish citizens to? Ohio?

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You go too far!

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Depends on your heritage I guess. 🤷 It comes up in the news now and then where children get deported to a country they have never been to, have no connection to and doesn’t speak the language.

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I mean if I’m at home I can fart anytime I want and put my feet on the table, if I’m a guest I would not do such things, that’s not inequality.

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Well, what if you are homeless, someone offers to take you to live with them, and then they kick you out for farting?

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If I’m homeless and someone offers to take me, for fucking sure I’m going to be on my best behaviour.

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That’s a terrible comparison

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This sounds very unconstitutional? It does say “everyone” so the principle of equality under the law should apply. Right???

EDIT, aw fuck:

Non-Swedish citizens and non-Swedish legal persons Art. 3. For those who are not Swedish citizens or Swedish legal persons, special restrictions may be laid down in law in respect of freedom of expression under this Fundamental Law.

Well that sounds horrible. Sweden, do better.

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Absolutely not. Countries should not accept people who are incompatible with their culture. That just causes division.

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Most countries aren’t nationalist homogenous etnostates and human society is a result of mixing cultures.

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Nationalist rhetoric detected.

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That assumes a country has a single culture.

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This law was passed due to Turkey wanting to get rid of pkk supporters in Sweden. They basically said we’re are going to keep blocking you from joining NATO unless you take care of the kurds in your country.

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They also want to deport for “bristande vandel”, “bad behavior/way of living”, which this probably will fall under. In their examples of what constitutes “bristande vandel” one is: being a victim of a crime. Robbed? Deportation. Raped? Deportation.

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