60 points

I read this on my 2013 MacBook Air 2013 running EndeavourOS. It runs amazingly well including video meetings.

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My mid 2013 MacBook air sees more use than any of my other devices.

I bought it for £100 a few years back and haven’t looked back.

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2 points

Out of interest, what kind of battery life do you get out of it?

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Depends - average would probably be about 2-3 hours? Not great but not awful for my use.

I could replace the battery and improve this - ifixit sell the kits - but currently I have no need.

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3 points

I have a mid 2014 Macbook Pro still running Catalina, I wanted to change it into arch, but it saw very use and mainly my wife use it to watch movies so it doesn’t really seems worth the effort.

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I have 2016 MB Pro with EndeavourOS as well. I can’t say I don’t like it, but I tend to have quite poor luck with my installs. Each time I get to the customization stage, sth breaks a little. Probably should go pure Arch.

Nevertheless, on MacBooks up to 2014 it should be much easier and require less effort.

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37 points

MacBook Air club represent!

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5 points

Can I join this club even though I don’t have an Air?

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3 points

I’ll allow it.

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3 points

noice! I guess you had to setup the wifi drivers while connected on ethernet, right?

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30 points

i’ve only owned one macbook in my life and it too came from the e-waste bin and it worked well for about 5 years.

that’s also where i got a lot of hardware that i still use to this day.

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26 points

You have a lot of incredible Macs waiting to be grabbed for cheap after Apple discontinued support.

Before converting my girlfriend’s MacBook Pro to Linux, I never thought it would be possible. I don’t know why but I thought they were some special inaccessible computers.

It’s just a shame the latest ones aren’t upgradeable. Apparently the last easily upgradeable one was the 2012 MacBook and the 2019 MacPro…not sure though…

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I don’t know why but I thought they were some special inaccessible computers.

It’s their marketing. Marketing, marketing, bullshit and marketing. Macs get viruses, Macs have vulnerabilities, Macs crash. Doesn’t matter how much their indoctrinated fans might claim otherwise, Macs are just weird PCs. In that context, their refusal to allow their owners to control them is all the more jarring and makes owning the older models like you mentioned all the more sensible.

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7 points

even if they cannot be upgraded they are incredibly well built (excluding those with butterfly keyboards, steer away from those) and will likely outlive any PC you might have from the same year

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Yeah but since they aren’t upgradeable anymore, you’re often kind of limited by the 8gb of RAM they often come with.

It’s also difficult to know how much life an SSD still has in it even if one day I could be tempted by a second hand M Mac and Fedora Asahi…

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i am not expecting any SSD to be worn out unless the previous owner was into heavy workloads, which isn’t the case for a lot of mac users. You can technically write over the whole SSD hundreds of thousands of time before losing some capacity. Assuming the OS runs on BTRS you’ll be fine as the file system will auto flag bad sectors.

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Your SSD will likely live longer than most of the other hardware. 8gb is surely low but quite enough for running Asahi in daily tasks.

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5 points

You can put an NVME ssd into a 2013-2017 MacBook Air or ‘13-‘15 Pro with a $15 adapter

RAM can’t be upgraded on any Mac laptop post 2012

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26 points

Not sure if it’s e-waste. The CPU should be decent enough for movies and office tasks.

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38 points

if you wanted to run macOS on this then yes, it would definitely be ewaste

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I personally don’t share the same definition of e-waste. Having to install Linux, a custom ROM or modded software to make the machine fully usable doesn’t make it complete e-waste imo. Conputer users should have technical knowledge to do stuff like that.

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52 points

That’s the point. Most users don’t know how to do that, can’t be bothered to learn, so this laptop would have been e-waste under most other circumstances.

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18 points

My parents (who are nearly 70-year-old computer users, by the way, and threw away their 2010 Apple laptop in 2015 because it essentially stopped functioning) absolutely don’t have the technical knowledge to do something like this. I think you may be vastly overestimating the average user.

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14 points

Conputer users should have technical knowledge to do stuff like that.

It’s not the 80s anymore. Normies are using computers now.

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6 points

Tell that to corporate

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