I’ve tried searching for “person-independent neopronouns” and failed to find any results.
Care to explain how this is different than referring to one’s self in the third person? Because I’ll be honest, I have a hard time wrapping my head around this.
My respect isn’t conditional to my understanding, but I feel I could respect better if I understood more.
My interpretation here is the first person (I), second person (you), and third person (he/she/they) pronouns are disregarded and are all represented by the neopronoun “drag”.
I.e. use drag whenever you reference dragonfucker and you’re golden.
That makes sense, but what is the material difference? Isn’t it ultimately the same thing by a different name?
Material difference of specific pronouns? Someone feels better, and I’m out no extra effort, I guess…
It’s as much difference as personal preference in chocolate bar brands.
If you just one for one swap you run into weird grammar.
What do drag want to do?
Is that right or…?
same with swapping in ‘they’! i think most pronouns are singular, only ‘they’ is plural due to legacy junk, see:
- what does he want to do?
- what does drag want to do?
- what does the cat want to do?
- what do they want to do?
- what do the cats want to do?
perhaps we should move towards singular they, eg ‘what does they want to do?’
I do my best for this! I’m not used to changing second person pronouns. (And have never heard of it before encountering drag.) Fortunately in text, it’s easy to take a second glance and fix where I messed up.
Keep rocking Drag! Sorry about the haters, but Drag seems great from the few comments I’ve run into across Lemmy
idk why people aren’t excited to use new words. we’re speaking a highly mutable and constantly evolving language. every year we get brand new words, others get new meanings, it’s all very exciting!
but then someone specifically says “i would feel more comfortable if you used this word” and THAT’S a bridge too far. it’s a kind of selfish that i just don’t understand.
Drag thinks it’s about shame. In the other thread, people were claiming that drag is bullying them into using drag’s pronouns, despite that never happening. Clearly, something is bullying them, and they attribute that to drag. Drag thinks this is what’s happening in their heads:
Respect drag’s pronouns? You’ll never be able to do that, you’re too stupid. You’re a pathetic transphobe who will never accept trans people because you’re a garbage person on the inside.
Their… Anxiety? Depression? Shame? A malformed conscience? - is attacking them because they don’t feel smart enough to get this situation. Then they lash out in an attempt to protect their ego by dismissing the source of their feeling of inferiority. It’s the same as a high schooler saying “math is stupid” because they had trouble understanding algebra. Except, this situation is higher stakes, because it threatens their ability to think of themself as a good person. So their attack against the source of shame is even more vicious.
I think drag might be right about some people being shamed by it, but I think the reasons are probably much more diverse, because there are all kinds of people.
I think in some cases it can be the fact that people often hate change, especially changing their behaviour. Learning new things is difficult for them. So they think - why does Dragon Rider want us to hurt our brains with the learning pains when using the usual pronouns works for everyone else I know? It goes against their life experience to think it might be really important to drag. They would need to be exposed to many more people like drag to start to see it as something necessary and normal.
And I think there are probably many more mechanisms in people’s minds that can make them reject drag’s chosen pronouns, I’m just not good at imagining all of the posibilities. People are very diverse.
I have nothing against dobbygender, they have my full support 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
