Tired of my tvs no longer updating to the latest software, tired of my phone no longer connecting to my car, tired of my few years old tech being considered legacy and no longer supported. Can anyone suggest non-android, non-apple, non-AI, non-connected, non-smart ‘dumb’ tech you’ve bought that makes a difference in your life? Should be hardy enough to last maybe 20 years (my even older plasma tv is still going on strong with a beautiful tv and forward firing speakers, while my newer Samsung lcd stopped receiving updates) and just do it’s job. I can live without mu ai enabled washer telling me how to wash my clothes.

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Let’s start this off. I looked at some business displays as a replacement for a tv. They do the job, but generally don’t have great sound, so I need to buy soundbars as well. My old Panasonic 50’ is great, and I don’t mind the power draw. Will miss it when it’s gone.

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For your car het yourself a cassette player dock and a Sony walkman. Don’t worry about the skipping, scratched CDs, limited data storage, shaky connection, inability to change the library at will, it’s much easier and more convenient than keeping a Bluetooth connection from your phone to your player working.

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Alternative, get one with a USB port and load a USB stick with MP3.

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I used to have one of those cassette adapters to use with mp3 players. They’d work great with headphone jacks. Pity few phones still have those these days.

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I use a Sony NWZ A15 which is an older player so can probably be had for not much money. Headphone jack and micro SD card.

If your car is newer with one of those integrated head units then you can get a 3.5mm Bluetooth sender for hardly any money.

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Yeah you’d probably have to rig something with a usbc to 3.5mm to cassette adapter if you want corded, though someone with better skills than me could slice and solder the two adapters together to make one adapter.

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I rebought my old Walkman for nostalgia WM-FX415, which, according to current reviews, was a decent model.

A little more techy, I’m currently looking at this portable CD player that has Bluetooth and FM transmit. It’s showing as sold out though.

Monodeal CD707.

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I just keep my radio off and instead listen to the worrying noises from the engine and suspension.

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Instead of paying for heat, sometimes I just wear warm clothing all day.

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Every time you buy a Big Mac, set one ingredient aside. Then at the end of the week you have a free Big Mac. And you love it even more, because you made it with your own hands.

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You buy a Big Mac once a day?

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Nobody says there will be a complete big Mac at the end of the week

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I haven’t used this advice myself yet, I stole it from Kevin

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jkKqxNqzuWE

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There is basically no such thing as a working dumb mobile phone any more. All the old 2G and 3G ones are now bricked because the networks all cut over to 4G/5G. Otherwise what can I say, just avoid stuff with connectivity when you can help it. Also buy corded tools and appliances unless the convenience advantage of cordless is too great to do without. Otherwise you stuck trying to replace overpriced and sometimes hard to find batteries.

If something is completely FOSS then the software angle is less of a pain in my opinion. I’m still using a beat-up Thinkpad X220 that was made in 2011, but running Debian Bullseye on it. I’ll update it to Bookworm or Trixie when I get around to it. Point is that I can do that, while any phone from 2011 is a hopeless dinosaur.

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There are totally still working dumb phones that use 4g. Just be prepared for giant buttons, as the target group is mostly elderly people.

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Got a link? I don’t know of any with no internet.

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This one for example. Don’t know whether it technically has internet, but the smartest function it seems to have is FM radio.

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Also dumb phones are more spyware then you would think, there have been documented cases of dumb phones using sms for background communication to spy or scam

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Yeah there are some dumbed down minimal function “grandma” phones that just make calls and maybe have a panic button that calls 911. I think one is called a “Cricket” or something similarly cute. But they have operating systems and I doubt that one would work for 20 years.

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They are generally locked down to specific carriers too.

A 20 year cell phone isn’t happening though. The networks change out too often. I still have perfectly solid 1g, 2g, and 3g phones that are useless because the networks they used are gone. 4g still works but for how long? 5g will be around for a while, but 20 years? Dubious.

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For a phone with a minimal UI, there is Light Phone. I almost bought the Nokia “banana phone” because it was used in The Matrix and I love that film. If you want something that will last a long time, maybe Fairphone (tho it is Android)

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Yes Fairphone is great. My parent is still using my old v3 and is still gets updates as well has having spare parts for fixes.

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Been personally skeptical of fairphone after they removed the headphone jack, and started selling wireless earbuds for like 200$. That has ruined my trust with their good intentions. They are at least a step in the right direction, but just a step.

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Fairphones due to having pretty long lasting hardware are common early targets for LineageOS and PostmaketOS devs, so yeah definitely a good choice for longevity.

Google pixels are the best mainstream longevity alternative due to developer adoption in the non-Google Android communities and mobile linux communities. Pixel 1s are still getting updates to latest Lineage Android, though I’m sure it has to be super slow. Graphene only runs on Pixels.

Librem 5 or the PinePhone would probably be your best bets if you want an out of the box mobile gnu/linux.

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The Light Phone looks pretty neat and I like the idea of a more minimalistic device (especially with e-paper), but it’s pretty unique hardware and a custom Android that needs jailbreaking to update if the company stops supporting it.

It also looks like the third iteration won’t have an e-paper display, so I’m not sure the beneft of that version will be against a ultra power-saving mode / locked down Android or a mobile Linux on much cheaper hardware.

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