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“The world has abandoned us,” she added. “They left us to the Taliban, and whatever happens to us now is a result of Western government policies.”

Hear hear.

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So, now we WANT America to perpetually occupy Afghanistan?

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Yes, that’s the only option. It’s always occupation or no occupation. No other options exist. /s

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I mean, yes?
There are literally no other options than occupation or no occupation.

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I wish the US had spent its efforts and resources towards completely eliminating the Taliban as an institution and ideology rather than kind of shoveling money around to opportunists with no skills for organizing people or maintaining loyalty. I think what happened instead was that the US was afraid of sparking a new movement that would eventually operate outside of its control so it funded what it thought it could control: rich assholes.

And now the religious fascists are back in charge. Wheee.

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American occupation actually strengthened the Taliban compared to before the US came, so America does bear some responsibility for this. Left to their own devices, the Taliban would’ve likely collapsed under their own weight, but now it’s likely they’ll stick around for while because of Chinese support.

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Do you see that collapse coming now that the Taliban have total control? Because that was the situation before the US invaded. We should have smashed Al Qaeda and then left, telling them that from now on, we’ll leave you alone as long as you leave us alone.

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we wanted them not to occupy it in the first place.

i think everyone is at loss on how to fix it now.

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I think everyone wanted Afghanistan to not give up immediately and surrender to the Taliban. Fighting spirit like Ukraine.

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Almost 20 years of military training and equipment and they did nothing. I get there was probably family on the other side, but the military basically gave up on the dreams of the Afghan women.

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Well, there’s also that bit where we funded fundamentalists during the cold war to try and fuck with the soviets, and the imperialism we and the soviets did that led to radicalization. A problem that we exacerbated which bit us back in the ass a few decades later.

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And now the other countries are trying to do similar to us lol.

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Saudi was the one who built all the madrassas that created fundie fanatics.

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Since when is it the world’s responsibility to save you from your superstitions?

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The US invasion strengthened the Taliban and basically killed native resistance to their regime, so the US does bear some responsibility for this.

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Since when is it the world’s responsibility to explain shit to you?

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religion doing what religion does… men doing what men do…

What is the news!?

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Do we have a credible source?

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Yes

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Which one would that be?

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The Telegraph is the British Conservative Party’s media wing. I’m not saying this isn’t true, but it would come better from someone else.

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Hmmm Ground News says it has only been reported by the right so far

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Oh I didn’t know. I thought they were legit.

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U.S. conservatives furiously taking notes…

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I thought leftists were the ones who like Islam? Or did it switch again?

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It’s that leftists “like Islam”, it’s just that they are generally not broadly xenophobic.

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Leftists are largely non-religious, rightists are the religious fanatics.

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I know. Yet every time someone criticizes Islam on the internet, leftists jump in to accuse them of racism. I find this inconsistency weird.

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You had me believing you thought in the first half of your comment but then your proved otherwise

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…And how… pray tell… do they… plan to enforce this?

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Violence

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Definitely violently too.

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They’ll unleash such violent violence that women’s voice won’t ever again.

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