I’m very careful with privacy and security so I was surprised I got an obvious phishing email from “American Express”. I reported the email and moved on only to get another one today. I checked haveibeenpwned and it came back clear. I have never gotten a phishing email before the other day. As for the senders, they all came from generic IT sounding email addresses. They obviously weren’t American Express.

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Probably a breach that’s not on have I been pwned yet.

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bummer

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If you have signed up on dubious websites with questionable privacy policy, many of them legally sell this data to “data brokers” who then sell it to anyone willing to pay. This happens more than you’d think, for example in 2019 it was reported California DMV makes $50 million a year selling users information. https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a32035408/dmv-selling-driver-data/

One neat trick is to signup for services with an email like name+website@domain.com, that way if you ever get spam you’ll know where you have been compromised.

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Information might also be leaked through data breaches. An email is not a particularly hard thing to find, or even guess.

A spammer could easily just have a computer iterate through all possible combinations of emails and usernames, and shotgun it.

Especially for a name like OP’s. If their email is a similar name, it wouldn’t be difficult for generate one that is also two words.

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Nah, my email is my name. It’s a very uncommon name.

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And you have zero social media with your name?

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A program to send to [list of firstname.lastname pulled from the census]@gmail.com or whatever is pretty easy. Also merchants sell the email lists for $ so if you’ve bought anything with that email that could be it.

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I might need to use your trick in the future. Thank you!

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I’ve used this many times before. But this is so well known I wonder, why wouldn’t spammers/scammers just remove the “+” and trailing characters before “@“?

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True. A more reliable way to achieve this is to buy a domain and use addresses in the form websitename@your.domain.

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Yeah that also usually comes up in these types of discussions. Even for technical people, that approach can be a pain to manage.

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Some companies just blatantly sell your data. Others get breached and you are part of the package that gets sold by the hackers.

The only “way around” is to use unique mail addresses for each signup/company so you can easily lock it and switch to another one when it gets known.

Just assume, that everything that you type in a form online (or in any other way send to a company/another person digitally), every email you send, everything that gets digitized about you, etc. will be public one day. Either because the other side of the transaction sold it or because they (or you) will be hacked eventually.

Btw: HaveIBeenPwned does not necessarily contain all breaches. I have several notifications of companies that got breached and leaked my data that are not listed in HIBP…

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So does Tuta which I currently use. It’s funny one of my aliases was in a breach recently.

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It can happen in many ways. If you’ve ever used your mail for anything, then the address is out there.

Just the other day I got an email addressed to 50+ people with every email in the “to” field. Ironically the mail was about online security…

Obviously it’s a breach on GDPR, but the damage is already done. If just one of the other recipients has been hacked or has forwarded to someone who is or has allowed some dodgy app to syncronize contracts, the scamners now has all the emails.

There’s absolutely nothing I could have done to prevent it.

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This just makes me think being online sucks like 50% of the time. I try to tell people to be careful online and not give up personal data when it can be avoided. People are so willing to give up everything for convenience sake. I complain about data collection and shitty tech companies and I’m called a paranoid schizo. Then again, I did everything right and still got fucked. Welcome to the internet. Sorry if this came off as negative. I don’t know what else to say.

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There is not much else to say. I got a text from “my bank” that a payment was due. They shorthanded the bank name, spoofed the correct area code, and even knew my normal payment date. Nothing is sacred and that’s the new reality.

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