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Israel made a mistake releasing the footage. This entire time they have been claiming he was a coward hiding in a bunker, while he is on camera staring down the drone coming to confirm his death, wearing full battle regalia, defiantly throwing scrap metal at the drone while missing a hand. Regardless of your opinion of Sinwar, this is an objective optical failure that will play against Israel.

Israel thinks on video game logic, if you beat the big bad boss everyone gives up, but that’s not what has happened. Sinwar is now more popular in death than he was in life among Palestinians, who actually believed him to be hiding, and not fighting on the frontlines as a 61 year old man.

Anyone who thinks this is the start of a ceasefire has seriously misjudged the material conditions of Palestine.

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Right-wing extremists leading Israel know very well what to do to keep this conflict going. They’re making sure that any peace period will be temporary.

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Yep, despite confirming with the drone that he was wounded and unarmed, they decided not to risk anything and just shot a tank shell at the building.

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Speaking of optics: Did Israel mention why he was in battle fatigues? I was given the impression that he’d be dressed as a doctor / ambulance driver / UN worker etc but he looks suspiciously like a soldier.

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They said he was dressed as a woman a month ago

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That looks very much like the classic totally unverifiable headline that has bought modern news media a terrible name… btw you’ve got a fantastic user name for this topic.

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He was likely hiding underground and IDF happened to catch him while he was trying to flee. Ineffectively throwing a stick at a drone leading to his death is a great analog for his military strategy. Under his violent leadership nothing productive was accomplished, and a lot of people died.

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That entire article is pure conjecture sourced from the IDF, an organization known to lie and dehumanize their opponents.

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Citing Times of Israel? Really? Lmao

He was in full combat regalia.

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Exactly, the puppet is obvious. I also first put on my full combat regalia when I’m supposedly trying to flee in a rush…

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On 16 October 2024, at approximately 10 am, IDF troops noticed a suspicious figure entering and exiting a building in their vicinity, after which an order was given to engage. At 3 pm an IDF drone detected three gunmen exiting the building, two covered in blankets and clearing the path for a third.

The soldiers opened fire and the group scattered, two entering one building and the third, later proven to be Sinwar, entering another building and climbing to the second floor. An IDF soldier was severely injured in the firefight that ensued.

A tank fired a shell at Sinwar’s location, and infantry soldiers began to sweep the building. Sinwar lobbed two grenades at them; one exploded and one did not.

The troops then pulled back and sent in a drone which detected an injured figure with a covered face attempting to knock the drone out of the air with a stick. At the time, it was not known that the masked militant was Sinwar.

Up against a 3 soldiers, a tank, and a drone

A refugee born in an Apartheid, from parents who were ethnically cleansed, killed on the front lines by a militarily superior force engaged in genocide

Definitely a stark analogy

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Hasbara‘s gonna hasbara

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Everyone who disagrees with you is Hasbara? OK pal.

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This isn’t a win for the Israelis who wanted a ceasefire or the hostages released. There will need to be a new leader to take over before negotiations can resume and chances are good they’ll be even more radicalized against Israel.

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And as their assassinations keep pushing the leadership lower and lower down the organizational structure there’s less likelihood whoever is around by the time they negotiate will have the influence to actually command people to cease fighting.

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How would they be able to influence Israeli leadership? Those are the people committing genocide currently.

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If you genocide them enough, then they don’t need leaders at all. Then there will be more lebensraum for the people of proper genetic stock that you think deserve to exist.

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like there’s gonna be elections in the rubble?

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This isn’t a win for the Israelis who wanted a ceasefire or the hostages released.

So it’s a win for Netanyahu who wants neither of those things.

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40000+ killed people for what? Where is the win? Now they are spreading false propaganda. Even Kamara speaks as a mouthpiece of Israel.

Axis of resistance will choose another leader.

Game is not over.
Genocide continues anyway.

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Removed for genocide denial.

To be 100% clear here, the precise definition of a genocide has five criteria, it only takes ONE to be declared a genocide.

Israel’s actions in Gaza meet ALL FIVE requirements.

https://iccforum.com/genocide-convention

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

© Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

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I do believe that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, but you missed an important part of the definition from your source:

with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical (sic), racial or religions (sic) group

Doing one of the above actions alone isn’t enough to be classified as genocide, it has to be done with systematic intent to destroy the group. That’s the bit that’s much harder to actually prove, because it requires having insider knowledge of Israel’s military complex.

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“Proud of his defiant last stand”

Thats simply disgusting. There’s nothing prideful about this monster of a human being. The only perception of him should be distain and erasure.

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Imagine being bullied and humiliated every single day of your life… then somebody gives that bully a black eye. That person would be your hero.

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Not if that person is a terrorist with no qualms of raping, torturing and murdering people. Who also btw bullied the shit out of you before.

Who are these people that think Hamas was not abusing and murdering Palestinians before war? Are you 12 or something and missed that whole history?

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Did you miss the whole story? Israel has always been the obstacle for peace.

De-development via the Gaza Occupation

The Israeli imposed closure on Gaza began in 1991, temporarily, becoming permanent in 1993. The barrier began around Gaza around 1972.

Between July 1971 and February 1972, Sharon enjoyed considerable success. During this time, the entire Strip (apart from the Rafah area) was sealed off by a ring of security fences 53 miles in length, with few entrypoints. Today, their effects live on: there are only three points of entry to Gaza—Erez, Nahal Oz, and Rafah.

Perhaps the most dramatic and painful aspect of Sharon’s campaign was the widening of roads in the refugee camps to facilitate military access. Israel built nearly 200 miles of security roads and destroyed thousands of refugee dwellings as part of the widening process.’ In August 1971, for example, the Israeli army destroyed 7,729 rooms (approximately 2,000 houses) in three vola- tile camps, displacing 15,855 refugees: 7,217 from Jabalya, 4,836 from Shati, and 3,802 from Rafah.

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Through 1993 Israel imposed a one-way system of tariffs and duties on the importation of goods through its borders; leaving Israel for Gaza, however, no tariffs or other regulations applied. Thus, for Israeli exports to Gaza, the Strip was treated as part of Israel; but for Gazan exports to Israel, the Strip was treated as a foreign entity subject to various “non-tariff barriers.” This placed Israel at a distinct advantage for trading and limited Gaza’s access to Israeli and foreign markets. Gazans had no recourse against such policies, being totally unable to protect themselves with tariffs or exchange rate controls. Thus, they had to pay more for highly protected Israeli products than they would if they had some control over their own economy. Such policies deprived the occupied territories of significant customs revenue, estimated at $118-$176 million in 1986. (Arguably, the economic terms of the Gaza—Jericho Agreement modify the situation only slightly.')

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In a report released in May 2015, the World Bank revealed that as a result of Israel’s blockade and OPE, Gaza’s manufacturing sector shrank by as much as 60 percent over eight years while real per capita income is 31 percent lower than it was 20 years ago. The report also stated that the blockade alone is responsible for a 50 percent decrease in Gaza’s GDP since 2007. Furthermore, OPE (com- bined with the tunnel closure) exacerbated an already grave situation by reducing Gaza’s economy by an additional $460 million.

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  • The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy

Blockade, including Aid

Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.

After the ‘disengagement’ in 2007, this turned into a full blockade; where Israel has had control over the airspace, borders, and sea. Under the guise of ‘dual-use’ Israel has restricted food, allocating a minimum supply leading to over half of Gaza being food insecure; construction materials, medical supplies, and other basic necessities have also been restricted.

The blockade and Israel’s repeated military offensives have had a heavy toll on Gaza’s essential infrastructure and further debilitated its health system and economy, leaving the area in a state of perpetual humanitarian crisis. Indeed, Israel’s collective punishment of Gaza’s civilian population, the majority of whom are children, has created conditions inimical to human life due to shortages of housing, potable water and electricity, and lack of access to essential medicines and medical care, food, educational equipment and building materials.

Settlements, Occupation, and Apartheid

Israel justifies the settlements and military bases in the West Bank in the name of Security. However, the reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.

This type of settlement, where the native population gets ‘Transferred’ to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice.

The mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948:

Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967:

While the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements

The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.

The apartheid regime is based on organized, systemic violence against Palestinians, which is carried out by numerous agents: the government, the military, the Civil Administration, the Supreme Court, the Israel Police, the Israel Security Agency, the Israel Prison Service, the Israel Nature and Parks Authority, and others. Settlers are another item on this list, and the state incorporates their violence into its own official acts of violence. Settler violence sometimes precedes instances of official violence by Israeli authorities, and at other times is incorporated into them. Like state violence, settler violence is organized, institutionalized, well-equipped and implemented in order to achieve a defined strategic goal.

Visualizing the Ethnic Cleansing

Peace Process and Solution

Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution

How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.

During the current war, Hamas officials have said that the group does not want to return to ruling Gaza and that it advocates for forming a government of technocrats to be agreed upon by the various Palestinian factions. That government would then prepare for elections in Gaza and the West Bank, with the intention of forming a unified government.

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Am I twelve? No. I’m nearly fifty and for almost thirty years have lost friends and colleagues to Hamas scum… not sure why you’d ever think I’d support genocidal religious extremists. My original point still stands - because that is the general consensus amongst all the refugees I’ve dealt with. Maybe you’ve dealt with different parts of the strip where attitudes might be different?

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I like raping there, what a projection. The only raping entity is “Israel” soldier admitting that on tape.

Hamas killing Palestinians is another projection. The only one who have doctrine of killing their own is also the “Israel”

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