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WLFI has a current value of $0.0000000000034 USD.

That’s about 3 billion WLFI for 1 penny. What a deal!

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According to this article, they “sold 846.63 million tokens valued at $12.7 million” on the first day, leaving “19.1 billion coins worth $287 million unsold”.
At the current price, $12.7 million USD would require 65,376,030 Trillion WLFI, so to get the money back you just have to own 3.2 billion times more WLFI tokens that exist.

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16 points

Sounds like a penny stock, I should dump my life savings into it, right?

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Hey, I made a bunch off a penny stock once time. Ignore that I’ve invested in penny stocks more than once.

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Huh. From what I’ve searched, WLFI comes with its own warning on coingecko, a site that supposedly tracks various cryptocurrencies.

According to GoPlus, this is a proxy contract. The contract owner can make code changes to the token contract including but not limited to disabling sells, changing fees, minting, transferring tokens etc. Exercise caution.

No active trades are found for this coin.

Emphasis mine.

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12 points

If it wasn’t such a pithy amount that they sold I would accuse them if it, but this would be a great avenue to accept donations from foreign or nefarious actors.

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I could also see that, given the total absence of liability on Trump’s part, even those foreign and nefarious actors might steer clear of it, if they realize that they, too, might be getting scammed, with no recourse at all to recover their investment.

Something like is very likely designed primarily to con easily conned conservatives out of their money, though the vehicle for foreign and bad actors also exists.

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4 points

Hmm, this all checks out. Now I just need to figure out how to trade my house for WLFI.

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4 points

Trading your house for a bunch of those $100k watches of good might be a better deal, because at least you’ll be able to hold actual physical excrement in your own hands. With that crypto thing, you just get watch your money vanish on a screen.

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1 point

Idk, holding excrement is icky.

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I hate to be a buzzkill, but the odds are he will win in 17 days. We need to make preparations for the long and difficult road that faces us. I don’t know what that means, maybe you do.

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Looking at a map with the current polls (and focusing on the toss-ups), it seems that the most viable path to victory for Harris is to pick up PA, MI, and WI. If she drops PA, she’d need MI, NV, WI or AZ, and GA or NC, but that seems like a big ask. If she wins PA, she could lose WI if she picks up AZ, GA, or NC and she could lose MI if she wins GA, NC, or AZ and NV. But winning PA and losing both WI and MI would require winning AZ and either GA or NC.

So there are a few paths to a Harris win, and a few don’t seem very farfetched, but none of them seem likely enough for comfort. Definitely not how I was hoping to be feeling at this point in the election.

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Honestly, I think it’ll be really disappointing for conservatives and liberals alike. Conservatives because he won’t accomplish much, and liberals because all the alarmists won’t have anything to show for it.

But that’s the optimist in me. If he actually does half of what he’s talking about, strap in for some crazy inflation and unemployment turbulence.

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7 points

Did you forget about his last presidency? Millions of Americans dead, huge increase to our debt, economic crash, loyalty oaths, refusal to help half of Americans who did not vote for him, ridiculous nepotism, elimination of half of citizens bodily rights, selling national secrets to the highest bidder, pay for play schemes up the wazoo, more lies than every previous president in history combined, steady increase in right wing terrorism, constant never ending culture wars, refusal to listen or accept briefings from advisors, travel bans, trade wars, praising of dictators, alliances dismantled, attempted coup, politicizing vaccines, demonizing healthcare professionals, refusal to transfer power, and of course illegally profiteering from office.

This list is nowhere near exhaustive and I think you may be wishfully naive in thinking he won’t accomplish anything. Well, more accurately, all his shit ass handlers will get project 2025 rolling. The top search result right now is pro project 2025 debunking the “myth” it would be bad for US citizens. You can’t make this shit up.

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wishfully naive in thinking he won’t accomplish anything

But he honestly didn’t accomplish much in his presidency. I went through your items below, but basically the things he actually did was:

  • tax cut - shot deficit way up, but we seem to have survived it
  • negotiated withdrawal from Afghanistan - not sure why Biden didn’t stick to it, so maybe the timeline was too aggressive?
  • annoyed a lot of people

Most of the rest was pretty innocuous. I went through everything you mentioned in some detail, but in general, the main issues I had were:

  • transfer of power - probably won’t be an issue next time because it’s hard to argue around the 22nd amendment, and he’ll be 82 (same age as Biden is today)
  • trade war - we’re going to have some whack inflation if he gets his way
  • narcissism - this is the root of almost everything I dislike about him

But since we have term limits, I’m not worried about the first, and we survived the rest, so I think we’ll be mostly okay. Yeah, there will be a mess to clean up, but it seems even Congress isn’t so crazy as to let the exec burn the country to the ground.

My response to those items

Millions of Americans dead

Would’ve happened regardless, it’s just the nature of the pandemic. I’m not going to hang that on him.

huge increase to our debt

Yup. I also blame Biden, Obama, and Bush for this as well. It’s unfortunately a bipartisan issue (though Obama almost got it under control).

economic crash

Again, pandemic. It’s a “screwed if you do, screwed if you don’t” situation. I would’ve handled it differently, but I think Clinton largely would’ve done the same.

loyalty oaths, refusal to help half of Americans who did not vote for him

Yeah, that’s weird.

But honestly, most Presidents are pretty hostile to those outside their party (both left and right complain about obstructionism). I think it’s tacky, but ultimately, “not helping” people who didn’t vote for you isn’t a thing a President can realistically do.

ridiculous nepotism

Yeah, not a fan of that. That said, it’s pretty common in politics to appoint friends to important positions. I think Trump did it more than others, but not that far outside the norms AFAICT.

elimination of half of citizens bodily rights

That’s not something the President has much control over. The closest is Roe v Wade being overturned, but he didn’t bring the case to the court, he merely appointed justices when there were openings, and honestly, his picks were reasonably tame (way more mild than I expected).

selling national secrets to the highest bidder

Is this proven? I know about the classified documents case, but AFAIK there isn’t any proof yet that he actually sold anything. Still super sus, but I’m not ready to pin this on him until he’s had his day in court.

pay for play schemes up the wazoo

You need to be more specific here.

more lies than every previous president in history combined

Yup, this is absolutely a problem. That said, it’s kind of a President’s job to lie. I think Trump certainly abused his bully pulpit though, and I hope there’s a law around this that could stick him with something, because it’s not a good look for the POTUS.

steady increase in right wing terrorism

Source? I think a lot of this can be explained by COVID (i.e. people slowly going more crazy during lockdowns), not Trump himself. But I could be wrong.

constant never ending culture wars

I blame DeSantis and other conservative governors more than Trump here. That said, he certainly stepped up his rhetoric this campaign season.

refusal to listen or accept briefings from advisors

Also a problem, but ultimately, it’s the President’s call on whether to listen to advisors. Due to this, I think the office of President should be significantly restricted.

travel bans

Well, most were shot down.

trade wars

This is my main concern, because he seems willing to send inflation to the moon with his tariffs just to stick it to China or whatever. That said, Biden kept his tariffs, and I don’t think Harris would remove them either.

praising of dictators

Yeah, that’s really weird, especially his praise of Kim Jung Un…

alliances dismantled

Which ones? He claims he’ll pull us out of NATO, but he claimed that in the last election, so I don’t think he’ll do it (and not sure if he can?).

attempted coup, … refusal to transfer power

Yup, that was definitely not cool, and my concern about something like that happening (at least election denial) was why I voted Biden in 2020 instead of my normal third party vote.

politicizing vaccines

Clinton would’ve done the same.

demonizing healthcare professionals

Which ones, Fauci? He literally lied, and not just a little.

illegally profiteering from office

I’m not super well-read on this, but my understanding is that he crossed a lot of Ts and dotted a lot of Is.

That said, I’m definitely not happy with how he handled himself during his presidency.

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4 points

I keep seeing posts that polls show it’s 50-50 but polymarket has Trump’s odds at 60, Harris’ at 40 with over $2B in wagers. Terrifying.

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5 points

I’ve seen some analysis correlating the shift in those odds not to any political news or polls, but to things like Elon Musk telling folks to go bet on Trump…

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It’s 4 accounts’ bets that put Trump’s odds at 60, likely being done to influence people’s perceptions about Trump’s chances. It only took ~$30M to tip the scales to 60, which is a very cheap way to advertise for Trump considering the billionaires who support him. https://www.wsj.com/finance/betting-election-pro-trump-ad74aa71

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Many people who gamble big money go by past divergences between polls done before, and exit polls done after. These can vary between 5% to 10% , which is important when the published count is almost 50:50 in some states.

Many US states violate UN practices for free and fair ballot counting, and while this is blindly ignored for decades, it shows up in the odds. People in the USA tend to talk about this as the shy republican effect, and other names.

At the same time, I do not trust the polls being done now, because most people do not answer phone, text or email about asking, given there are so many scam polls out, so I have to wonder how this skews the results.

I would totally use the bookie odds and ignore the polls

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Polls also only try to measure public opinion and don’t quantify the very real effects that the vast toolkit of dirty tricks play in the election process, including whatever October surprises are lurking around the corner.

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5 points

Everybody does. It happened before in Europe.

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5 points

Dudes just trying to stack up all the lawsuits. SEC won’t be so nice I don’t think.

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16 points

SEC can’t SEC if SEC doesn’t exist.

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When Trump says he’s “pro crypto”, this is what he means.

Meanwhile the SEC under Biden/Harris has helped crypto by targeting actual scams like this one.

So in case you have a friend who’s a crypto bro, remind him who has actually helped and who called Bitcoin a scam.

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