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Why are millennials killing genocide?

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Nobody wants to 'cide anymore

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Because of avocado toast

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i’ve never seen centrism so badly misunderstood.

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Please enlighten us.

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I’ll bite. Most of what I see here in this thread against Centrism or Independents is bad strawman arguments consisting of: “There are three types of people: reasonable people who agree with me, crazy fascists, and lily-livered wimps who can’t pick a side (and are also fascists)!”

If someone says that they are “centrist” they are not telling you that they base all of their opinions on being dead center in the middle of any two positions. That would be stupid.

They are telling you that they agree with neither major party on everything, and find that both parties have views that they don’t agree with. It’s pretty easy to come to that conclusion because the US two-party system packs in an almost incoherent mishmash of beliefs into exactly two sides.

There is absolutely no contradiction in being for police reform, and against riots lasting for days. There is no contradiction in being for gun rights, while also wanting massive limits on them. There is no contradiction in wanting functional government services and universal healthcare, and thinking that free markets are effective to an extent. There is no contradiction in wanting a more balanced budget, and government services to be funded properly.

The idea that there are only two (or maybe 2.5 depending on where you live) sides in politics is a strange delusion created by your two party system.

The reason the meme creator is running into situations like this is because they don’t witness the Centrist also vehemently argue with right-wing policies frequently.

They only see them argue with them and therefore have a skewed view of Centrists / Independents and their politics. If you are left wing, and argue for left-wing policies in every case, that means you will also be argued with by somebody who believes political nuance and not just waving a party flag.

Remember, the right wing also shits on centrists because they think they are secretly left-wing since they argue with their stupider points as well.

So no, these people are not secretly right-wing and just don’t have the balls to say it. That is a horrendous take no matter where you fall on the political spectrum and only serves to limit conversation.

Now you go.

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This is insanely reductionist lol

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Tbf, most memes are. It’s why they’re memes.

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Some might say it’s their defining characteristic.

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Extremists be like “You’re either with me or against me!”

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Is that such a wrong position to have when the questions are as starkly “respect human rights or don’t respect human rights” as most issues are in today’s conversation? This isn’t a discussion on the minutia of how much money should be allocated to transit subsidy, this is “should the queers be allowed to exist?” and “should women have rights?” and “do parents have the right to ruin their child’s life just because they’re the parent?”

If you really think there’s a middle ground there, either you’re a fucking idiot, or you actually don’t and you’re just trying to pretend you do because you know your actual answer is morally indefensible unless you ascribe to a world view that has no business being respected in a democratic rights respecting society.

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I’m an extremist when the issue is “should we do a genocide”.

On the “no” side, to be clear. I will indeed not accept any answer other than that one.

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That’s not what centrism means. It’s not an immediate compromise between the two. It’s acknowledging that not every single stance held by a political party is the correct one.

I can support background checks and other limitations on firearm purchases, and also not want open borders. We should be doing something about the excess of gun violence, and we should be doing something about the thousands of immigrants jumping our border.

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