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Well, that really sucks the llama’s ass.

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Uhhh

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I think I tried Winamp back in the day but never really understood it.

One has to admit it’s good that they released the source code (while it was available) so users can learn what their software is actually doing on their computer. Better for yourself as a dev too: you will probably avoid including other people’s work in yours. However, wanting contributions while retaining the exclusive right to distribute the software is anti-collaborative. I’m reluctant to say it might as well be proprietary again but since it doesn’t meet the standard of software freedom then it’s equally not worth trying on my computer.

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In its day Winamp was the most comprehensive media player and users were super into its skinability which was a big deal at the time. Nowadays the “plays everything” throne is very firmly occupied by VLC, with a little cushioned stool next to it for Media Player Classic to sit on. However, neither of them offer the user interface experience that Winamp does/did.

Winamp was iTunes before iTunes. It was Spotify before Spotify. It did an excellent job of managing the hordes of totally legitimate MP3’s we all had back in the day, and did so with an aplomb that nothing else seemed to manage. Really, its playlist and library management was top notch. Newer apps still piss me off because none of them do it the way Winamp did.

Side note, if you have an old iPod kicking around and don’t feel like dealing with Apple’s ecosystem, Winamp can still, to this very day, stick music on your device natively without having to install or use iTunes. Just saying.

But this source code release thing really baffles me. I have no idea what the point of that was supposed to be.

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I’d say that mpv also has a place near VLC when it comes to playing everything.

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Really, its playlist and library management was top notch. Newer apps still piss me off because none of them do it the way Winamp did.

It’s why I still use winamp.

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It’s been a while since I’ve used Winamp, so I might just not remember, but what makes the library management so special?

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It did an excellent job of managing the hordes of totally legitimate MP3’s we all had back in the day, and did so with an aplomb that nothing else seemed to manage. Really, its playlist and library management was top notch.

This is why I’m still on the eternal search for a replacement. Library management was really, really good in Winamp. I use Strawberry these days and it’s absolutely great at playing stuff but the playlist management is just ‘good enough’.

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If you’re running Windows you can still use old versions of Winamp.

On Linux, I dunno. I’ll bet you it’ll run in Wine.

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I think I tried Winamp back in the day but never really understood it.

What was there not to understand? It was a basic music player with playlist functionality, a plugin infrastructure to support playback of pirated music in underground formats like MP3, at the price of completely free and no ads (the website had banners but not the player).

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Not sure what I could have expected from it back then. I just recall it being recommended online and ended up just using Win Media player (with the cool graphical effects).

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However, wanting contributions while retaining the exclusive right to distribute the software is anti-collaborative. I’m reluctant to say it might as well be proprietary again

As you describe it, that is proprietary – no “might as well be” qualification necessary. Just because you can read the source code doesn’t make it Open Source; you’ve got to have all Four Freedoms for it to count.

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the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software.

Is it not actually four or are they counting some of these as the same thing?

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Change and improve sounds pretty much the same to me, as in the process is modifying it, only the intent changes.

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122 points

Unsurprising given that their repo’s license was a contradictory mess

Anyways I’d recommend using Strawberry instead

It’s an actual Free and Open Source music player:

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86 points

…That site’s UI looks like someone saw the marketing literature for the Frigidaire produce preserver and said, “Yeah, that’ll do.”

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lmao😆

btw did you mean the background?
UI typically refers to the user interactable elements

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The whole look n’ feel. Not UI, then, maybe just call it overall design.

But it was the first thing I thought of as soon as I saw it. Even the cursive font, in pink…

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Strawberry doesn’t support about a dozen audio formats I use, so until it’s got wider support I have to pass.

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8 points

What formats?

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4 points

.xcf

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Ten chiptune formats, two other videogame music formats (.at3 and .mab), WMA, IT, AAC, MP2, and MIDI.

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19 points

You have support for .wav .flac .mp3 .opus, why would you use anything else?

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Because hard drives aren’t getting any bigger lately and I don’t want to multiply the size of my videogame music collection by ten?

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If it doesn’t play Amiga era .mod files, is it really even a music player?

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4 points

Will strawberry let me play a folder as a playlist from the DE’s context menus? Like right click > play in strawberry.

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Lovely that it is open source, but dear lord that UI is a blast from the past 😂😂 👴👵🏚️

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It’s ugly af. Hope some designer can volunteer to set them straight.

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13 points

It’s an Amarok fork, so yes

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So that’s why I thought: finally a viable Amarok replacement.

Most players out there seem to be built for like 40 songs?

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Oh that makes sense. I think I last used Amarok 20 years ago.

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I mostly use mpv to play local music nowadays. (Most of the music I play is streamed using a Navidrome server with Feishin as the frontend.) Back when I did use a proper audio player on Linux, Harmonoid was my go-to.

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Nice profile picture!

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Thanks!

most people don’t notice🤗

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Milkdrop is in Kodi these days, so my winamp love affair is more nostalgic than anything real

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Llolma

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