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That’s the purpose of the corresponding mass incarceration of citizens. Trade low-paid immigrant labor for unpaid slave labor.

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If they really wanted to solve illegal immigration, simply jail any business owner who hires illegals. Guess which political party affiliated small business owners would end up as the majority of those incarcerated?

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USA citizens would work those jobs if they paid them a living wage. Labor costs are tiny fraction of food costs even tripling the prevailing ag labor wage would be trivial percent increases in the price of most food

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Is that not the point?

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What’s the point in taking about anything he would do when elected? Where’s the wall, dawg? Your healthcare plan? The greatness of America restored? Cheese and rice, less than a month of this distraction, can’t come soon enough. Vote.gov . Already voted Harris/Walz, let’s go!

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After his town hall meeting, it’s safe to say he isn’t going to do anything when elected since Vance will be president.

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