The Pentagon has confirmed it is sending a THAAD missile defence system and US troops to Israel, publicly acknowledging that US troops will be on the ground assisting in Israel’s defence.

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Yuck… That’s fucking disgusting. I feel physically sick reading this.

They’re telling Israel to slow down with the attacks and sending weapons and soldiers at the same time.

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This is like, technically a weapon. It’s a tool for destroying enemy missiles in the air before they impact their target. It’s about as purely defensive of a weapon as you can get.

The US soldiers are operating the missile defense system, so there’s not room for Israel to “creatively” repurpose them. They aren’t assisting in any missions in Palestine, they’re purely defending against Iranian missiles.

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Ah ok. That makes sense then. I wasn’t informed about that system. Thank you for telling me.

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The US providing this defense however allows Israel to be even more belligerent without fear of retaliation, possibly the only thing stopping them from expanding their genocide faster.

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And now they will claim the US soldiers were attacked after placing them in the line of fire and use it as another excuse to go to war with Iran and continue exterminating Palestinians. It truly is sickening that they are fully participating in genocide

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Is this the human shields situation I keep hearing about?

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There is no such thing as a defensive weapon. Its entire purpose is shielding them from the consequences of their own actions. Its just the armor of the tank that is Israels military. Its an integral part of the weapon.

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They’re air defense operators, just like gets deployed around Saudi Arabia’s oil infrastructure.

If you want to feel bad about anything, it’s that this will significantly reduce the likelihood that Iran can threaten Israel with ballistic missiles.

THAAD is really good at what it does, and something tells me that the Iranians aren’t going to want to waste their entire stock pile on fruitless saturation attempts. To say nothing of their concerns of killing American troops.

As in, this provides Israel even greater latitude on their quest to start a hot war with Iran, without dramatically increasing any threat to their military bases and government buildings. Well, at least not from ballistic missiles.

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THAAD can be overwhelmed similar to Israel’s own missile systems. There has been a THAAD system in Israel since 2019 so it already failed during Iran’s retaliation.

The US is sending around 100 US troops with the new system so there will be additional interception capabilities. But it remains unlikely this will affect a saturation missile attack.

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I’m not saying it can’t be. I’m saying I don’t believe Iran has the capabilities or stockpiles available to do so, given the other American assets in theatre, or a desire to risk killing American troops.

I suspect they’re deploying THAAD because of the failures of David’s Sling during the last missile attack.

Air defense systems protect specific targets, not countries. Given the THAAD’s long track record under US operators, I would wager that the bases and targets that Iranian missiles hit, either lacked sufficient coverage, had poorly trained Israeli personnel, and/or were covered by David’s Sling.

Of course, I could be wrong, but we won’t know for many many years given how secretive Israel is on these matters.

Edit: I’m not seeing any reports of active THAAD deployments in Israel prior to this announcement, just previous deployments to Israel, including for training. But no mention if they rotated out prior to the Iranian missile strike, or that they were present for it.

I’m not saying they weren’t there, but do you have a source confirms they were present during this most recent attack?

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As in, this provides Israel even greater latitude on their quest to start a hot war with Iran, without dramatically increasing any threat to their military bases and government buildings. Well, at least not from ballistic missiles.

That’s also a very good point. It’s like shielding a bully while they continue to bully other people. While I wouldn’t mind seeing that bully getting smacked by the other people they oppress, I also don’t want to see more people dying either. However, I know Iran has been targeting military targets and not civilian ones. So…

Anyway, this is all just fucked up and I want to see an end to this senseless violence and death, and I want to see Israel getting what they fucking deserve. That is the whole country should cease to exist in terms of land and borders and the land be returned to Palestinians after what they fucking did.

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They’re telling Israel to slow down with the attacks

Purely to help placate the public. There’s no influence/true intent behind these words. It’s the actions, not the words, that tell the true story.

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Election.

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16 points

We should send defense equipment and forces to both sides.

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Weapons I get (in the sense that it’s already a thing), but soldiers? What are they even gonna do?

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Try to scare Iran into not attacking. Iran targets military installations including missile systems so there is now a chance that they will blow up legally (at least according to USA) stationed US soldiers there. Or worse, this might be a deliberate provocation and they want Iran to blow them up to have some bloody shirt to blind the people into yet another war.

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I hate how that makes sense.

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Iran has already taken on US military installations in Syria and in Iraq. It seems very likely that there was a US presence at some of the military installations that Iran has already attacked in Israel.

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Sure, but the situation is different, US now is blinded with blood, note how the most significant part of that news is that they are officially deployed right into what is basically hot target zone.

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It’s more likely that they are being sent because they are trained to operate THAAD and sending them is more efficient than training IDF troops to operate it.

Iran launched missiles at US bases in Iraq a few years ago with very little in the way of retaliation.

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Wasn’t this around the time US murdered Soleimani? It was clear back then that US no longer want war, Soleimani head was to have a last word and to appease republican hawks in Washington. Now the situation is different, current administration seem to push for war. Also US is perfectly able to ignore any and all deaths of its citizens when they don’t want war, but bray for blood at the slightest provocation when they do want. They just have an excellent propaganda around this - most glaring historical example is how the sinking of Lusitiania scared Germans so much that in september 1939 even Goebbels eaten all that propaganda and after sinking Athenia everyone there was scared shitless and entire act was made so secret that it only accidentally came to light after war. Also USS Liberty incident.

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All part of their master plan.

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They are the soldiers responsible for operating the missile defense system.

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Operating the anti ballistic missile aystem that’s being sent.

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The 100 soldiers will operate the missile systems. Maintenance, reloading, target confirmation etc.

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Imagine the good that could be done caring for USA citizens with all the money we send to Israel to make war.

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Seriously, it’s one of those few bridge-crossing arguments which most people will agree on, from the communists to the liberals to the nationalists. Look at all that money going to the other side of the world. Look at the local living conditions. If the governments aren’t keeping people poor, desperate and dying on purpose, then the choice of where to spend the money is obvious!

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