Instructions here: https://github.com/ghobs91/Self-GPT
If you’ve ever wanted a ChatGPT-style assistant but fully self-hosted and open source, Self-GPT is a handy script that bundles Open WebUI (chat interface front end) with Ollama (LLM backend).
- Privacy & Control: Unlike ChatGPT, everything runs locally, so your data stays with you—great for those concerned about data privacy.
- Cost: Once set up, self-hosting avoids monthly subscription fees. You’ll need decent hardware (ideally a GPU), but there’s a range of model sizes to fit different setups.
- Flexibility: Open WebUI and Ollama support multiple models and let you switch between them easily, so you’re not locked into one provider.
whats great is that with ollama and webui, you can as easily run it all on one computer locally using the open-webui pip package or in a remote server using the container version of open-webui.
Ive run both and the webui is really well done. It offers a number of advanced options, like the system prompt but also memory features, documents for RAG and even a built in python ide for when you want to execute python functions. You can even enable web browsing for your model.
I’m personally very pleased with open-webui and ollama and they both work wonders together. Hoghly recommend it! And the latest llama3.1 (in 8 and 70B variants) and llama3.2 (in 1 and 3B variants) work very well, even on CPU only, for the latter! Give it a shot, it is so easy to set up :)
Are you running these llms in containers completely cut off from the internet? My understanding was that the “local first” llms aren’t truly offline and only try and answer base queries offline before contacting their provider for support. This invalidating the privacy argument.
The interface called open-webui can run in a container, but ollama runs as a service on your system, from my understanding.
The models are local and only answer queries by default. It all happens on the system without any additional tools. Now, if you want to give them internet access, you can, it is an option you have to setup and open-webui makes that possible though I have not tried it myself. I just see it.
I have never heard of any llm “answer base queries offline before contacting their provider for support”. It’s almost impossible for the LLM to do it by itself without you setting things up for it that way.
Where would an open source LLM that you run locally phone home to, exactly? It requires a lot of GPU compute, do you think someone’s just going to give that away for free, without even requiring an account they can turn into saleable data?
But wait, there’s an even better way to be sure: download OpenHardwareMonitor so you can watch your GPU go to 100%, and this or GPT4All or something. Then airgap your computer, and try it yourself.
Do you know of any nifty resources on how to create RAGs using ollama/webui? (Or even fine-tuning?). I’ve tried to set it up, but the documents provided doesn’t seem to be analysed properly.
I’m trying to get the LLM into reading/summarising a certain type of (wordy) files, and it seems the query prompt is limited to about 6k characters.
For RAG, there are some tools available in open-webui, which are documented here: https://docs.openwebui.com/tutorials/features/rag They have plans for how to expand and improve it, which they describe here: https://docs.openwebui.com/roadmap#information-retrieval-rag-
For fine-tuning, I think this is (at least for now) out of scope. They focus on inferencing. I think the direction is to eventually help you create/manage your own data which you get from using LLMs using Open-WebUI, but the task of actually fine-tuning is not possible (yet) using either ollama or open-webui.
I have not used the RAG function yet, but besides following the instructions on how to set it up, your experience with RAG may also be somewhat limited depending on which embedding model you use. You may have to go and look for a good model (which is probably both small and efficient to re-scan your documents yet powerful to generate meaningful embeddings). Also, in case you didn’t know, the embeddings you generate are specific to an embedding model, so if you change that model you’ll have to rescan your whole documents library.
Edit: RAG seems a bit limited by the supported file types. You can get it here: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui/blob/2fa94956f4e500bf5c42263124c758d8613ee05e/backend/apps/rag/main.py#L328 It seems not to support word documents, or PDFs, so mostly incompatible with documents which have advanced formatting and are WYSIWYG.
Thank you for your detailed answer:) it’s 20 years and 2 kids since I last tried my hand at reading code, but I’m doing my best to catch up😊 Context window is a concept I picked up from your links which has provided me much help!
Increase context length, probably enable flash attention in ollama too. Llama3.1 support up to 128k context length, for example. That’s in tokens and a token is on average a bit under 4 letters.
Note that higher context length requires more ram and it’s slower, so you ideally want to find a sweet spot for your use and hardware. Flash attention makes this more efficient
Oh, and the model needs to have been trained at larger contexts, otherwise it tends to handle it poorly. So you should check what max length the model you want to use was trained to handle
I need to look into flash attention! And if i understand you correctly a larger model of llama3.1 would be better prepared to handle a larger context window than a smaller llama3.1 model?
Someone recently referred me to this blog post about using RAG in open-webui. I have not tested if but the author seems to reach a good setup.
Perhaps this is of use to you?
Thank you! Very useful. I am, again, surprised how a better way of asking questions affects the answers almost as much as using a better model.
I wish I could. I have an RTX 3060 12GB, I run mostly llama3.1 8B versions in fp8, at 30-35 tokens/s.
I can confirm that it does not run (at least not smoothly) with an Nvidia 4080 12Gb. However, gemma2:27B runs pretty well. Do you think if we add another graphical card, a modest one, maybe the llama3.1:70B could run?
I have been running this for a year on my old HP EliteDesk 800 SFF (G2) with 64GB RAM, and it performes great on the smallest models (up til 8B) only on CPU. I run Ollama and OpenWebUI in containers/LXC in Proxmox. It’s not as smart as ChatGPT, but it can be suprisingly capable for everyday tasks!
Wish I could accelerate these models with an Intel Arc card, unfortunately Ollama seems to only support Nvidia
They support AMD as well.
https://ollama.com/blog/amd-preview
also check out this thread:
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/1590
Seems like you can run llama.cpp directly on intel ARC through Vulkan, but there are still some hurdles for ollama.
I use Alpaca and ollama running in podman
All running on CPU with decent performance
Wow, that’s an old model. Great that it works for you, but have you tried some more modern ones? They’re generally considered a lot more capable at the same size
Its an app…
I just want one that won’t just be like “I"m sowwy miss I can’t talk about that 🥺”
