Google is developing a Terminal app for Android that’ll let you run Linux apps. It’ll download and run Debian in a VM for you.

Engineers at Google started work on a new Terminal app for Android a couple of weeks ago. This Terminal app is part of the Android Virtualization Framework (AVF) and contains a WebView that connects to a Linux virtual machine via a local IP address, allowing you to run Linux commands from the Android host. Initially, you had to manually enable this Terminal app using a shell command and then configure the Linux VM yourself. However, in recent days, Google began work on integrating the Terminal app into Android as well as turning it into an all-in-one app for running a Linux distro in a VM.

Google is still working on improving the Terminal app as well as AVF before shipping this feature. AVF already supports graphics and some input options, but it’s preparing to add support for backing up and restoring snapshots, nested virtualization, and devices with an x86_64 architecture. It’s also preparing to add some settings pages to the Terminal app, which is pretty barebones right now apart from a menu to copy the IP address and stop the existing VM instance. The settings pages will let you resize the disk, configure port forwarding, and potentially recover partitions.

If you’re wondering why you’d want to run Linux apps on Android, then this feature is probably not for you. Google added Linux support to Chrome OS so developers with Chromebooks can run Linux apps that are useful for development. For example, Linux support on Chrome OS allows developers to run the Linux version of Android Studio, the recommended IDE for Android app development, on Chromebooks. It also lets them run Linux command line tools safely and securely in a container.

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Why not androids terminal since android is base on linux this one just downloads debian

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Android userland is vastly different from ‘linux’ ie desktop linux people are used to. While there exists unshare/proot based containers (termux is an example) it might not be suitable for privileged features of kernel except for rooted devices.

Chromeos is much closer to desktop linux (init being upstart not systemd afaik) but still the ‘linux’ apps run inside crosvm to keep the locked down nature of the os intact.

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makes sense and i thought termux uses the android terminal
chromeos yeah it makes sense aswell its linux with google spyware i seen some distros use sysvinit and runit instead of systemd (aka systemd-free distros)

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Can’t wait to have Google’s telemetry injected into my Linux apps

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Steam?

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Steam requires it to be installed in an x86 environment, whether natively, or through emulation (and most x86 emulation has significant overhead and imperfections)

But java applications should run natively if you supply an appropriate build of java. I have an arm VPS that I’ve hosted several Minecraft servers on without any problems (other than those I created myself) and I also learned by accident that Microsoft’s builds of OpenJDK actually work for (at least some) Minecraft versions that they aren’t supposed to, so I have to wonder if that’s a happy accident or intentional work by Microsoft

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No, not unless you have an x86 Android device. While this will run Linux apps, it will be limited to the CPU architecture. Unless there is a x86 to ARM translation layer on Linux that I’m not aware of?

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You can use QEMU’s usermode emulation to transparently run ARM binaries with binfmt_misc on x86.

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Unless there is a x86 to ARM translation layer on Linux that I’m not aware of?

https://steamdb.info/app/3043620/

It appears Valve is working on Proton for arm64, I was wondering if this is to attend the mobile market, a new Index or maybe a smaller Steam Deck.

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box86/box64, and there’s also FEX-emu which is used by the Asahi Linux project (Linux on Apple Silicon macbooks).

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I’d rather have a linux OS on the phone that can run Android apps.

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Make one :)

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That’s what android is ;)

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That’s like saying MacOS and IOS are BSD

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Its not the “Linux OS” that we want, but it is Linux, it runs the Linux kernel, so does chromeOS.

Be cleat about what you want.

What you call “Linux OS” is actually GNU/Linux, or as I’ve taken to calling it lately, GNU + Linux.

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I want a Linux phone capable of running android apps

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Will never happen because of SafetyNet. Google does not want you running Android apps on anything other than their approved Android ROMs.

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What’s that?

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Looks like Google is calling it Play Integrity these days: https://developer.android.com/privacy-and-security/safetynet/deprecation-timeline

But it’s this: https://developer.android.com/google/play/integrity

It’s an API that ensures you’re running apps on the hardware and Android ROMs Google approves of. It can also ensure that apps are not running on rooted phones.

Developers can integrate it into their apps. Banking apps do it, for example, and won’t run in Waydroid as a result. More and more apps integrate it.

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Came in to say this. Linux on ARM is getting so close to daily driver ready.

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Pine64+waydroid

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So, I’m not that great with Linux. I know the basics, that’s it.

Is it user friendly? I mainly want Linux with Android app support because I hate Google.

I’ve used windows my entitle life. Now windows 11 upgrade was done without consent, now they are doing their best to make it even worse then it already was. I would love to switch to Linux, it’s just that I’m using some apps which do not exist for Linux yet. Next to that I’m not that comfortable with the Linux mechanics to make the switch on my main PC. As in: Like I know what I’m doing on the machine which I use a big part of my time. I need full control. I know I have it with Linux, I just don’t know how. And I feel stupid for it.

The moral of my story is: I’m scared to make a switch from something I’m so familiar with for years and years to something new, even though I hate the corporations behind the stuff I use.

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You can test Linux out by using a live USB instance or in a VM. You can also dual boot so you’ll always have Windows available if you need it.

You can also install WSL on Windows or something like Git Bash or MSYS2 to get a Linux-y environment on Windows.

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have you considered desktop linux + grapheneOS? would be a better experience for you most likely

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