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The ones who we need to stop pleasing first is corps and company’s.

They are the pme who make up like 70 % of emissions

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They’re not doing that independently of the products and services they provide. Over consumption is a big issue and narratives like this shirk personally responsibility and promote the bystander effect.

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On the contrary, we need to hold these corps accountable

So talking with your fellow people should primarily be about how to do that and not you thinking about how to not be pleasent about it

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This isn’t something that gets solved by just hoping people’s individual lifestyle choices fix it. Production has to be scaled back, and market economics is clearly not capable of that sort of conscious decision making.

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‘The Market’ is not capable of spontaneously deciding to make less profit for sure. What is capable of, and in fact the only thing it does is responding to demand. If the demand for highly polluting products like meat and fish fall, it will pivot to products that continue to see high demand.

This is why individual action does matter. You can’t just offload all responsibility for making better choices onto the companies and act as though you are forced to consume what they produce, andnothing will change unless they change.

To be clear I’m not advocating for everyone to be vegan or anything like that. One plant based meal a week could have huge impact on the climate

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and companies*.

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This is such a stupid statistic. Do you think those companies were burning fossil fuels purely for fun? Or perhaps they’re making things that people subsequently buy?

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Not everything in life is about making money you know? Everybody will have a better time if we dialed the greed down from 11.

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This is a bullshit argument. People will make do with what they have. Do you think People suddenly woke up one day and demanded soft drinks to be created?

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Corps are made up of people though. And for some reason people seem to think that it’s not their fault if it’s part of their job. We need to convince them otherwise.

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and you dont do that by being unpleasant to your fellow people

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Bringing up stats instead of ignoring them isn’t unpleasant.

Companies spend billions over years to convince us to think nothing of it, we need to fight back with grassroots.

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I didn’t suggest being unpleasant to anyone.

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i do not talk to the tiny group of ultrarich who make the meaningful climate decisions

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6 points

The idea is we all six degrees of Kevin Bacon it.

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4 points

you should let lead do the talking anyway

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Wait. Was I not supposed to be talking about this? Next you’re going to tell me that sewage treatment is an innapropriate dinner party topic.

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I don’t ask people about their politics. I just act like true things are true, e.g.: human instigated climate change, COVID, the efficiency of a single payer healthcare system, a oblate spheroid earth, and the moon landing. I’m politely understanding of the flaws in their world view, but I NEVER pretend that any of it is even up for debate. You can balance not being rude with not backing down from the objective reality you live in by showing an genuine fascination with their weird cult beliefs.

Conspiracy theories, religion, myths, and magic are all very comfortable fantasies that wither in the face of the existential dread from understanding that the universe is horrific and absolutely indifferent to your personal suffering. Being excellent to each other and maintaining faith in the potential of humanity (tempered by knowledge of our depravity) is our only hope of survival both physical, philosophical, political, and spiritual.

Ok, sorry that turned into a rant. This shit matters though, so not that sorry.

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I can’t manage to maintain any faith in the potential of humanity but maybe that’s because I’m a little too depraved.

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Basically my attitude. For objective facts I refuse to pretend they aren’t objective facts.

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Does this sulfur emission process cool the ocean?

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