153 points

about two years

How convenient.

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It’s exactly the time, where they are legally required to fix that in the EU

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39 points

I know, that’s why it always catches my eye when there’s “2 years” in there somewhere.

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Warranties are now 3 years in the EU.

Edit: nope, just some countries.

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100 points

Pathetically weak flex cable and connector. Obvious problem and design weakness that’s persisted for years.

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50 points

It would be a relief if that was the problem. Even if Apple won’t issue a recall, third-party cables can be made and sold for a reasonable price by places like iFixIt.

If the display itself is defective, then this is going to be real bad for a lot of people unless Apple bites the bullet.

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52 points

Look at the 2016 MacBook Pro.

They had a problem with the display cable and it can’t be easily replaced since it’s soldered to the display.

You basically just need to get an entirely new display even though it’s just the cable.

Additionally, some shops will resolder the cable, but it’s not a long term solution.

Even replacing the display by Apple is not a long term solution because they replace it with another display that has a cable that’s slightly too short and will eventually break again.

So the only real solution is to buy a new computer.

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3 points

Heck my SO has a 2nd gen Macbook air and it has the display cable problem as well.

Perfectly good laptop, but no OS or hardware support and a repair quote for more than the machine is worth.

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6 points

Happened in 2022 to a 2017 MBP belonging to someone I knew. She went out and bought a new one, and put the old one in a drawer. She brought it to me in 2023, I investigated and found the shitshow - Apple saying “nuh-uh”, the ACCC (Australian consumer advocate) saying “you’d better”, then Apple quoting me $1100 because the ACCC never enforced it, and me getting it fixed locally for $550. It needed a new screen, not because the screen itself was faulty, but because the failing flex cable was integrated with the screen. Screw Apple.

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3 points

Same with my mbp 2019. Failed on me earlier this year, every works fine except a $0.10 flex cable that they decided to solder inside the panel so it can’t be changed.

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1 point

I remember replacing that cable on my 13 in Wallstreet PowerBook. The cable made a 180 degree turn causing it to break internally. Apple replaced it the first time, but I had to do it when it broke the second time.

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48 points

Apple builds obsolescence into their products on purpose.

If you’d bought a PC, a faulty screen would be easily replaceable. I had to replace my laptop screen myself several years ago, and with a $60 part and ten minutes on youtube, it was an easy repair.

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Not really anymore. They make them expensive to repair, but they also don’t want you to switch to another brand, because for them a user in the ecosystem purchasing apps and subscriptions is worth way more than a frustrated user purchasing a one time display replacement. Their whole strategy now (for a few years really) is to make devices that last at minimum 5 years, because it makes the user happy that their 5yo phone still works, and that means they are likely to get another iPhone, and because as long as the user is in the ecosystem, they are making money by taking their cut of everything that happens on the device

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19 points

I still use a 2011 MacBook Pro. It’s running Linux Mint now and hasn’t been my primary laptop for a couple of years now, but it’s still a solid machine. In fact, as is the norm with Apple stuff, it lost OS support long before it stopped being a viable laptop.

Fortunately, Opencore Legacy Patcher exists…

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11 points

Let’s hope Asahi linux becomes usable enough as a daily driver before the M series laptops stop getting updates

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1 point

I should put mint on my SSD/16GBRAM 2011 MBP…

Can you dual boot with OSX?

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3 points

So we rely on expensive things hard to fix with controllable lifespan.

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21 points

That will be 450$ and you’ll have to send your device in for 3 weeks. -Apple Genius

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Oddly enough, the reason why I did the repair myself was that the shop quoted me $400, haha. It’s nice to live in a world where you can fix your own stuff, something that Apple also does their best to prevent.

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It sounds like you quoted the “piss off price”. They didn’t really want to do it, so they just quoted a stupid amount of money if you’d taken them up on it it would have been worth it for them to do it but they were hoping you wouldn’t.

Screen replacements for laptops are a pain because it’s never all that obvious from the beginning how easy it will be. For you it was apparently simple but it depends massively on the laptop and they may not have an encyclopedic knowledge of which laptops are easy and which laptops are hard.

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-5 points

Huuuuuh

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29 points

Hmm. I’m still using a 2014 iMac, as its 27" 5k screen still very good for coding (with added memory). Sometimes develops a bunch of thin vertical lines, which come and go maybe dependent on temperature, but hasn’t changed for for ten years and i can live with those. Just wish they’d continue providing security updates for it.

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27" 2015 iMac here. No problems whatsoever. I’m going to use this thing until it dies.

Edit: Gotta love the downvotes for literally just owning a Mac. Good luck breaking into the industry as a video editor without one, guys.

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It’s called an industry standard. You have heard of those before, I presume.

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-1 points

Please spec out a PC with similar hardware to a Mac and half the cost.

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Wow thanks, never heard of this before. I was getting all set to buy a new Macbook so I could install the latest versions of Xcode and keep developing iOS apps. Looks like I can keep on abusing my 12yo Macbook instead.

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I have a 2014 MacBook Pro which I love more than any computer I’ve ever had. This is in my list of things to do. Before I was just going to install Linux on it but this seems like a better solution to keep all the apps I was using.

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I keep pondering grabbing one of those on the cheap and getting one of those kits that turns it into a really nice 27” monitor.

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8 points

Linux runs great on Intel iMacs. Just sayin’.

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21 points

What does this have to do with “Apple Silicon”? Unless it’s not screen deterioration, but something with graphic output.

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Might just be to indicate when it started happening. They could have written “M1” and still cause the same confusion, and I believed that’s what the model is called.

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“According to an investigation by one of the affected users, the Apple iMac screen uses a flex cable that must sustain a voltage of around 50 volts when the screen is set to high or maximum brightness. This causes the connector to burn out over time, it was theorized, resulting in short circuits that cause the black lines to appear on the screen”

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Oh. Makes sense it’s a cable. This way they can profit on spare cables and keep the reputation of reliable hardware for their fanbase.

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33 points

This flex cable is bonded to the LCD and requires a replacement of the whole display assembly

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10 points

Not that kind of cable

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It refers to the affected models, not the cause. The apple silicon iMac was a complete redesign.

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