Basically:
Die quietly so Dems don’t look good for helping
She’s legit asking people to martyr themselves over a talking point most republican voters would never hear…
Completely irrelevant… I read it as “moist Republicans” and… yeah, I prefer it. I want to believe they’re mostly moist in a very uncomfortable way.
Serious question:
Why is she telling people to not ask for FEMA?
So, she isn’t saying not to ask for disaster assistance per se, she’s saying not to comply with FEMA.
Given Loomer’s other quite conspiratorial beliefs, my guess is that she believes FEMA will round them up into internment camps and then either use them as slave labor or forcibly reeducate them.
FEMA is one of the conspiratorial right’s long existing bogey men. Based off of I think some executive orders signed under both JFK and Reagan, if a extraordinary national disaster or state of emergency is declared, the President has the power to relocate people to FEMA camps.
What this actually is, is basically in the event of the Soviets nuking the entire country to shit, basically martial law is exercised and the President gains a whole bunch of direct control over and exceptional powers to direct many federal agencies toward the aim of keeping as many people alive as possible.
What conspiracy theorists think it is, is that basically arbitrarily at any point the President can use FEMA to round up and ‘deal with’ any kind of political dissidents. It was most often invoked as the way that gun owners would all be rounded up during some kind of total gun ban.
I remember when FEMA-as-villain was a thing in the X-Files. Wild that it’s a conspiracy that survived so long.
If you actually look at what the paranoid/conspiracy minded R’s believe, it’s basically the x-files.
Like, seriously, some lazy but effective propaganda machine has taken episode after episode of the xfiles and made it a core belief of the right.
… I wonder if Rupert Murdoch… Nah…
Re FEMA. I was a young teen in the early www era. Alex Jones was a nobody, but he was all aboard the FEMA train. As were a number of extremist rw sites that, unfortunately, I ended up following.
That was about 35 years ago.
It’s amazing what you can convince people of.
Also during hurricane Katrina, people getting raped and dying in the superdome, or whatever that stadium was in New Orleans, somehow really fed into the FEMA conspiracies. Though I’m pretty sure FEMA wasn’t even involved in that situation. IIRC It was local authorities, at least initially, that had directed people there without having any plan on how to handle them.
The most insane thing I remember from Katrina was Blackwater authorizing themselves to respond to New Orleans, (they received official approval after they were already on site) where they didn’t provide any aide or assistance, but set up sniper teams on roofs and above water overpasses and sniped people they deemed to be looters, as well as confiscating any guns they found.
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/08/secret-history-hurricane-katrina/
So I guess that kind of makes the ‘black helicopters’ conspiracy sort of true, lol.
Those same people upset about rape in the superdome don’t care at all when it’s homeless shelters
I’d assume the weird “Obama is going to use FEMA to set up concentration camps to round up all his enemies” conspiracy (Possibly updated to Biden, possibly not, they tend to also be the “Obama is using Biden as a secret third term controlling him from the shadows (and Harris will be an even secreter fourth)” type)
This goes further back than that. I remember the first x files movie really leaning into this conspiracy that FeMA could be used to basically take over the country. Of course back then conspiracy theories were fun and on the cringiest of folks actually bought into them. Not so much anymore.
It wasn’t that the conspiracy shit was fun, but that the X Files were a fictional TV show. Stargate uses a metric fuckton of conspiracy shit too in their world building but only complete loons would take any of that seriously.
The Lib agenda leaked
Step 1: Using evil lib magic, control the weather, like what MTG said
Step 2: round up True Patriots into Concentration camps thanks to FEMA
Step 3: ???
Step 4: profit.
there is a whole thing on twitter about FEMA blocking aid, rescue helicopterss and shit. all based on “sources” texts to Loomer, Elon Musk, etc.
edit for better sources:
edit 2, from fema directly:
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor-response
She’s telling the folks who are being issued a stand down warning by FEMA not to comply. There are private entities attempting to render aid and medical flights that are being told to stop by federal crews and she’s telling them not to listen.
Are they being told that because they’re causing an overcrowding hazard in the air? I’m willing to bet there’s also a lot of individuals randomly flying drones around as well.
Edit: FEMA isn’t stopping any rescue flights. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/10/05/interested-parties-memo-fighting-hurricane-helene-falsehoods-with-facts/
They will use any opportunity to use any worn conspiracy to shit on any government body.
This was during covid:
Alex Jones has been freaking out about FEMA since at least the Obama years, including Walmart. They’ve been reusing old stuff for a long time now. His bird flu, ebola, and covid coverages have been similar over the decades to, always antivax and exaggerated. With Civid, he finally had a leader who did the wrong things to address it so he got to milk it far more.
I was reading the announcement by one of the towns in the area and Facebook responses. They said that power would remain out for who knows how long, that the main streets were destroyed and they barely made somewhat passable dirt roads, municipal water was out and well water should be considered unsafe, and so they strongly encouraged everyone to leave of they could possibly go elsewhere.
Replies from people seemingly actually from the community were basically saying they were sure if they left the federal government would eminent domain their land and they needed to stay to defend their property from those federal people.
Ex?
