cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/3613920

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Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”

“But I still want to get paid for it.”

25 points

Ha! Not the onion was made for this headline!

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Another idiot who thinks “prompt engineering” is a real skill and not just another step those companies are using idiots for free AI training.

You ask AI to draw a ninja turtle on a skateboard, and that “effort” they put into phrasing their request well enough for the AI to understand makes the AI learn the 10 past attempts were looking for what the 11th got

And now it won’t take ten tries to go that route

Any “skill” by the user has a very short expiration date because the next version won’t need it thanks to all the time users spent developing those “skills”.

But no one impressed with AI is smart enough to realize that. And since they’re the on s training the AI…

Idiots in, idiots out

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I use ai when I use search engines. This makes the search engines better. I also use ai when I get spotify suggestions. I use ai when I use autocorrect. I use ai without even realizing I’m using ai and the ai improves from it, and I and many other people get an improved quality of life from it, that’s why nearly everyone uses it just like I do.

So, @givesomefucks , do you also regularly use ai that improves from from your usage? Or are you not a hypocrite who thinks there is something morally bad about specific ais that you don’t like while doing exactly what you claim to be against with other ais? How are your moral lines drawn?

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I use ai when I use search engines. This makes the search engines better.

go on mate, pull the other one!

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They didn’t say better for whom.

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Thanks for the example!

Whether an individual determines AI “smart” depends on how smart the person is. We’re all all our own frame of reference.

I have no doubt AI impresses you every day of your life, even stuff that’s not AI apparently, because not all of your examples were.

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You are just ignorant of the history and evolution of the term “AI”. It’s easy for anyone to learn about it’s history, your point of view is just one of ignorance of the past.

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I think you were downvoted by people who think “AI” was invented in the past decade.

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Thanks for demonstrating what a useless term “AI” is when you’re not trying to sell snake oil.

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Every word in every language changes over time. The term AI changing is the absolute normal. It’s not some mark against it.

Current llms are phenomenally beneficial for some things. Millions of developers have had their entire careers completely changed. Teachers are able to grade work in 10% of the time. Children through to college students and anyone interested in learning have infinitely patient tutors on demand 24 hours a day. The fact that you are completely clueless about what is going on doesn’t by any stretch of the imagination mean it isn’t happening. It just means that you not only feel like you are “beyond learning”, it also means that you don’t even have people in your life that are still interested in personal growth, or you are too shallow to have conversations with anyone who is.

This is just beginning. The more you cling to being in denial of progress, the further you will get behind. You are denying any mode of transportation other than horses even exists, while people are routinely flying around the world. It most likely won’t be too long until your mindset is widely accepted as a mental disorder.

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“Promp engineering” is as useful skill as Google fu used to be.

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I completely agree. I wonder whether some IT bachelor’s degrees now have lessons in AI prompting. I remember in 2005 there was a course we had to do which could’ve been labeled “[shitty] Google-Fu” or something. “information searching” is what it would more or less translate to. Basically searching using Google and library searches well. And I don’t mean “library” in the IT-context, but actual libraries. With books. Just had to use the search tools the locals libraries had.

Such a fucking filler class.

In my year like 60 started, two classes. After three years like 8 graduated.

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It’s kinda dead now due to enshittification but the vast majority of humans I’ve interacted with could use a class on how to use a search engine.

Edit- it could be made more modern by showing how to ignore sponsored stuff, blatantly SEO shit, AI shit, etc

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11 points

I’ve worked with tons of people who do not understand how to effectively use search engines. Maybe this was done poorly but it seems reasonable enough to me in principle.

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-7 points

You don’t have a clue how ai works do you?

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Can you point out what’s supposedly wrong with their comment or are you just claiming that every critic of so-called “AI” doesn’t have a clue to justify the hype?

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I don’t know about that, in particular, because people generally add more detail, but it teaches the AI what kind of detail to add. So if you’re not picky, then yeah, the AI learns from that kind of thing.

As far as it being a useful skill, I don’t think it was in the first place. “Prompt engineer” has always been a joke. It’s like being a “sandwich artist”. Everyone can do it with one day of practice.

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16 points

ChatGPT, show me the world’s tiniest violin playing “No One Gives a Fuck” in A minor.

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2 points

I wish that was true for minors 😔

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43 points

It’s not “famous” that should be in inverted commas, but “artist”.

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12 points

We call those quotation marks.

But yes.

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-8 points

Who is we? The global pedant society?

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11 points

The English language? I have never heard the phrase “inverted commas.”

But as to your point: “Both? Both is good.”

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4 points

Aren’t inverted commas also a phrase for that? Or is that the joke.

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Yeah. It’s from the old printing press times when they used the same pieces of type for commas and quote marks, just rotated 360 degrees.

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Actually I’d argue you could put quotation marks on every word in the first half of the headline.

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