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this can’t be an accurate or reasonably accurate depiction, these are two completely different storms in a different category after all.

This is like me comparing the joplin tornado to the el reno tornado.

(for those that don’t know the joplin tornado was an extremely erratic EF/F 5 tornado that was incredibly strong and just sort of showed up and then lingered over a particular area causing immense destruction, whereas el reno was a massive, very powerful tornado, that was collectively rated to be about an EF/F 3 i believe, although the core itself, and numerous shenanigans it pulled including sub vorticies or whatever the correct term is were much stronger, causing strong localized damage)

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this can’t be an accurate or reasonably accurate depiction, these are two completely different storms in a different category after all.

What do you mean? This shows the differences between the two.

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What do you mean? This shows the differences between the two.

yeah but i don’t really see how that matters. Weather is extremely complicated, and unless hurricanes are a lot more consistent than i think they are, this is a lot like comparing two random tornados together, and then being surprised when one of them is a lot worse than the other.

If that’s what we’re doing we should compare the tri state tornado to any tornado in the last 10 years and suddenly tornados must be a lot less dangerous now than back when the tri state tornado hit.

It’s an entirely arbitrary mechanism of comparison. It’s just wrong.

Even if the point is trying to convey the difference between different storms, i can pick up two different rocks, they’re both different rocks. You can’t really glean something from 2 data points effectively.

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The different categories are the point. What they’re missing though is Helene was much closer to a category 5. It’s winds were 15 mph short of that category and the storm tail you can see in the above photo is characteristic of category 5 Hurricanes. That in and of itself isn’t a big deal. The big deal is that it’s the second storm at this strength this year. The first one stayed coastal where they’re used to all that rain.

What the picture is basically saying is Katrina was a warning shot. An actual Category 5 with winds well past 157 mph is going to hit the wrong spot and we’re all going to regret not taking climate change seriously.

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going to

I don’t unpack my go bag anymore even though we only evacuate every sixth year or so. I’ve lived here 30 years and we’ve evacuated 4 times, will probably need to this year or next (fire season is almost over). Although, I’m calculating like it happens steadily, not taking into account the acceleration. 1996. 2007. 2017. 2020. uh, fuck. Now that I type that out, those last two are an awful “coincidence” and I need to go sit down.

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Oof yeah. That wasn’t why we left the fire prone area we used to live in, but it sure didn’t hurt the decision to move.

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The different categories are the point.

are they? storms are not like a magic black box that outputs a specific strength of storm, the point i’m making is that we should be comparing every storm we have since the beginning of recorded history and comparing them to what we’re seeing now, rather than taking one storm from like a decade ago, and comparing it to another now. This is a completely arbitrary description of climate change.

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We’ve done that before. We’ve talked about how the heat has higher energy and water potential, we’ve talked about frequency of storms, of severe storms, of once rare phenomenon. This seems to grab people better.

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Evidently they fucked themselves by voting against Gore, too.

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Maybe Florida voted majority against gore, we will likely never know

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Oh, we know.

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W must be watching with popcorn

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Good news! It’s gonna get worse! Much, much worse! Say thank you to petrol states and companies, preferably by blowing up their infrastructure

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You should read Ministry for the Future. It’s about how people cope with the world after the effects of climate change get out of hand. It’s sobering.

The idea of just blowing up the offending petrol infrastructure made me think of it.

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And a big thank you to politicians blocking major efforts to reduce carbon emissions thanks to lobbying by the industry and foreign governments.

The world finally needs to stop politicans getting huge donations and hold them accountable for their actions.

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Alright so we’re going to change how we vote, right folks? Green New Deal or they are literally selling us out.

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And also acting like “climate change” is a taboo topic that should never be spoken over the air, lest you offend someone.

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But they brought a snowball into Congress and everything so obviously climate change is fake news!

Anything and everything for money… I wonder if they’ll take cash in hell?

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It boils my blood that Republicans would blame Democrats for not sending enough aide during these times, all the while Republicans vote against initiatives drafted up by Democrats to combat these issues specifically.

They use issues like this entirely to rouse their base and keep their support.

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I see Yoda in the 2nd pic

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