I saw the apology statement and the original tweet but I’m genuinely confused about what people are mad about?
Especially mad enough to make a fork of the Godot engine?
I did watch This video from Games From Scratch but he barely gives any actual information about what people are mad about. The most information I got is that a joke tweet was made and a non-affiliated moderator went a little overboard.
What am I missing here? What’s got everyone so upset?
An unofficial discord admin told some discriminatory people to go fuck themselves for whining about an inclusive statement made by Godot engine.
Is that it? That’s pretty much everything I gathered from it too.
Why is anyone making a big deal of that???
If godot stonks go down, maybe people will crawl back to unity and Riccitiello would get to have a smug I told you so moment
It’s more than some unofficial mod in discord. The Xitter Community Manager apparently had no chill with any type of criticism about their politically-motivated posted about being “woke” (in ref to someone xitting about studios being woke for using prebuilt game engines). Unhappy members of the Godot community spoke out (politely mind you) that they’d rather see Godot focus on fixing bugs, rather than wasting resources being political. The CM’s response was to lay the ban hammer (both on Xitter and on GitHub) and block dissenting views. That’s round about when the unofficial mod decided to step in and white knight for the CM using their unofficial discord server.
In the end, it looks like the Godot Foundation is all in protecting their CM, and released a statement only apologizing for banning people who were not a part of the conversation; offering a Google form as a means to get unbanned.
Why is it a big deal? Depends on which side you believe is right or wrong:
On the CM’s side, it’s probably (and this is solely my opinion) about feeling empowered by their position to promote their sociopolitical agenda. For the Godot foundation, it seems they agree with their CM; or maybe they are too proud to admit fault.
For the devs, they just want to have a platform to build their games, and are frustrated by what they perceive is a lack of support (and documentation) from the engine devs. They don’t want to be involved in any sociopolitical argument, and feel that Godot shouldn’t either.
Personally, I feel the CM acted wholly unprofessional and should be fired. Not because they wanted to promote inclusivity with their remarks about being “woke”, but instead by their blanket bans for any hint of criticism. It shows a severe lack of emotional maturity and inability to function in a society. They are no better than those they fight against (ie bigots).
The Godot Foundation should be ashamed of their lack of response, and not calling out the CM for their banpage. They are shitting all over the very people that want to help them grow and become successful. In this case, I haven’t seen many (if any) devs being assholes, and yet Godot is allowing them to be mistreated.
Again, all of the above is my understanding and opinion of the matter. I am in no way affiliated with Godot, the CM, or any of the devs.
It’s not political to be inclusive. People just use that as a way to passively promote their bigotry.
10 people are all in a house, cooking a great stew, mixing different cuisines and spices. It’s fragrant, tasty and filling. An 11th person comes in, drops his pants and starts pissing right into the stew.
Your stance is that everyone should calmly wait for him to finish pissing, politely taste the piss stew, comment on how welcome his piss is, and patiently listen to him ranting about why piss stew is the only stew that should be allowed.
Yeah, that’s fucking bonkers mate. Someone pisses in your stew, you toss them the fuck out of the house.
Oh, so Godot is even more based now? That’s cool to know. Toxic bigots don’t belong in any community; deplatform and shame the fuck out of them.
It means something like rational or good from the point of view of the person saying “based”. Or like “based in reality”.
Person 1: “My partner broke up with me and I am sad about it but the relationship wasn’t going anywhere and I think it is better that way. I should work on myself before I can be with someone”
Person2: "that is incredibly based. "
I’m always amazed how the fuck your feelings crowd have so many feelings and how loud they are about them.
fuck am I really unironically going to Know Your Meme for news now???
…this is a weird timeline
This has actually helped a lot.
I never understood the criticism people make of “maybe focus on the engine instead of making bad tweets” as in the social media manager is ALSO the lead coder or something?
At no point does putting out a tweet change how fast someone unrelated takes to code something.
Very good summary. The only thing missing is a mention that in the aftermath a Godot fork called Redot was created and it’s twitter account gained 17k followers in 2 days.
My guess is that at best they’re going to mirror all the merges happening in the main godot repo with the only difference being the custom branding, but even that they will probably lose interest after a few months and peter out. I highly doubt there’s going to be any unique developments or improvements. And even if they do? The main Godot repo could just yoink them right back lol.
Literally nothing. Godot is amazing and it’s butt hurt phobic folk making a mountain out of a mole hill.
in a nutshell,
Godot community manager responds “lmao we’re woke” to a tweet that says “using game engines is woke”
Some people decide to cancel godot because woke = bad, as a response a mod of unofficial Godot discord server says fuck that. Godot foundation disapproves of that language.
Godot’s code is open for any developer to use however they want so anyone could make a fork of it; but just making a fork of a game engine and innovating on it are two different things.
From what I’ve read sounds like it can be accurately summed up as stupid xitter drama over politics word.