It’s nothing like 15 minutes, but Lemmy doesn’t federate posts instantly either. At a guess, there’s a per-remote-instance worker that sleeps for a bit, then sends everything that’s accumulated while it was sleeping. It’s most noticeable when you’re linked to only one other instance, and you still have to wait before getting anything. The advantages are that it’s better to open a network connection, send a bunch of stuff, then close it, rather than opening and closing it for every activity, and it’s more efficient to just send an Edit, rather than a Create and then an Edit if they both occurred close to one another.
For Threads, there’s the additional advantage in that it means they can offer the equivalent of ‘undo send’ (like in Gmail), since deleting a non-federated post is easier and more reliable than deleting a federated one. But 15 minutes is crazy high - like the Source says, it makes a nonsense out of trying to do things like comment on a live event.
(In contrast to the above, PieFed will send this Note out instantly. It’s all a trade-off between the pros and cons of different approaches, innit)
t’s nothing like 15 minutes, but Lemmy doesn’t federate posts instantly either.
And for Hubzilla, it depends on the outgoing queue. It can range from instant to awhile.
But we can edit and delete our posts, and most major fediverse platforms will comply with our update and delete requests. But as users who understand a bit about decentralized social media, we understand that once it is sent, there is no guarantee that third parties will delete or update it. The average Threads user probably does not understand that yet.
Maybe the majority of fediverse instances should just defederate from Threads. Then they can take all the time they want to broadcast their shitty posts.
https://fedipact.veganism.social/
Lemmy.world is one of the few still federated
Are they already trying to enshittify the Fediverse experience with this delay?
Sounds like simply shitty programming if they need a 15 minutes delay in order to give users the possibility to edit their posts … editing posts is possible in lots of fediverse software without such hacks lol
Sounds like EEE to me, but it seems a little too early in the cycle for that.
But it’s cooperative, as long there is 1 instance that doesn’t respect delete requests, they can’t provide the ability to delete a mistakenly posted picture that actually works.
15 minutes is excessive though. 3 minutes should be enough.
Someone could also just screenshot the post before it’s edited. It’s a silly argument
a fixed 15-minute* delay
I’m not a native speaker… interesting, why would that be phrased that way? It’s still multiple minutes?
The delay is singular. So one delay for fifteen minutes is a fifteen minute delay.
Generally, when describing a thing, the unit is written as singular. “15 minute delay”, “10 foot pole”, “5 gallon bucket”. When referring the unit itself though, it would be plural: “a delay of 15 minutes”, “the pole is 10 feet long”, “this bucket holds 5 gallons”. I’m sure there’s a more precise way to say this, but hopefully it helps.
I can’t say I’ve ever seen one.
