When is the admin going to run out of excuses?

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Ah yes Ukraine and Israel are both American proxy wars and not totally different conflicts with different politics run by independent countries

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We sure are supporting Israel a lot for it to not be a proxy war though…

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it’s not a proxy war they’re just using American money and weapons and some American citizen soldiers

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And America is using that to exert their influence on that region in the world. Sure sounds like a proxy. Just because Israel has more power in American politics compared to Ukraine doesn’t mean they aren’t a proxy.

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Then what is a proxy war?

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I mean, the difference being that the US has a say in how one in conducted, and a very justified interest in it’s outcome, while the other is in the Middle East.

Why they are running a proxy war that’s out of control and doesn’t help anything is a good question, and one that can only have stupid answers.

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It’s not a proxy war; it’s a proxy “police action.”

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I mean…. They’re two totally different conflicts with different politics run by independent countries…. That are also proxy wars being funded by the US and China.

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I wonder how Russia feels as the proxy in the fight rather than the supplier of a proxy in the fight

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Right? Probably a new position for them.

They’re being supplied and bank rolled by China now

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I hope that’s just a joke, it’s not like Israel needs more enemies

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netanyahu needs Israel to have more enemies so that he can maintain a stranglehold on power indefinitely. basic fascism

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Russia supports Iran while the US supports the paragons of Israel and Saudi Arabia. Kind of like the US was leaning Pakistan while Russia leans India. Now China finds more value with Pakistan than we do though (which will eventually make us do something stupid to “support our interests”).

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Yeah, I still don’t understand the Pakistan thing. Pakistan:

  • harbored Osama bin Laden
  • has pretty uninteresting economic output
  • has serious beef with their much larger neighbor India, and are somewhat friendly with Iran and China

Whereas India:

  • has a ton of people
  • already has pretty extensive economic ties to the US, which could be strengthened, and is a ripe alternative to China for production
  • has tensions w/ China, so we have mutual enemies
  • is highly unlikely to harbor any of our enemies

Yet we keep them at arm’s length.

I could say the same for Israel and Saudi Arabia. Why are we so intent on picking the worst possible countries in a given region? The only explanation is that we want war…

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religion and oil are the basic reasons, aren’t they?

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India is a contender for becoming a major power in a multipolar world, where the US is not the hegemon anymore.

So it makes perfect sense to help Pakistan and stir the conflict so, India is slowed in its advances to become a major power.

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Sunk-cost fallacy stemming from Cold War-era choices.

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I think they’ve gone beyond somewhat friendly with China. They’ve got PLA troops in Pakistan now doing anti terrorism work. The chances of the Chinese establishing a naval base in Pakistan is far from remote at this point, though I think it would be a back channel red line from the Americans regarding further military funding.

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I think you mean pariahs not paragons. Paragon means perfect.

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I was being quite sarcastic.

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Look can’t I just be happy a Russian airbase was attacked?

Hahaha

FUCK YOU RUSSIA

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I like the cut of your jib

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Lmao fuck these wars are complicated but there is one simple fact we can agree on

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139 points

The American reaction in the second frame should’ve been: cool, here’s more weapons.

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Making fun of the IDF on Reddit? That’s a paddlin’.

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How is this making fun of the IDF? Seems to me the topic is the Biden administration’s arbitrary restrictions on Ukraine.

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It’s not up to Biden bud.

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You’re wrong. Such decisions are made by the Executive branch.

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to be clear, ukraine went ahead and did this anyway. And then the US lifted restrictions on this kind of stuff (idk if it was completely, but they did do it)

It’s not really arbitrary, it’s just geopolitics being geopolitics, ukraine and the rest of europe showed that russia would bluff, and we’re supporting them more now.

I guess it should make sense coming from a partially republican legislature that doesn’t even believe in the ukraine war to begin with.

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It’s about atacms strikes deep (+100km) inside russia, what according to you did they do “anyways”?

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The trick to a good proxy war is that everyone involved has to participate via proxy. Russia broke the rules and now we all have to walk on eggshells.

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Wait…

Are we on Reddit?

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No, according to the poster, this post was removed from r/NCD (on Reddit).

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Thanks for responding.

I was mostly just sarcastically joking.

Assuming most of us had made the switch at some point. Etc etc etc

In other news I hope you’re having a nice day!

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