Yeah and?
Israel invaded their country and is committing genocide. It should come to no one’s surprise that Israel fucks around and finds out during a war they started.
a war they started.
There are chances the outcome would be different if hamas released hostages, or didn’t attack Israel on October 7th. Those things were not smart. It didn’t serve any good purpose. A smarter thing would have been to prepare for such an attack from Israel by building defenses to protect civilians at the very least.
No there are not, this has been ongoing for decades and decades. Things would not have magically improved, it would have continued to be a slow death sentence whilst the world ignored it.
What Hamas did, no matter how tragic, has done more to bring light and international support to the plight of the Palestinian peoples and exposed Israel as the monster it is than anything else ever has.
That didn’t worth it in my opinion. The level of international support is nowhere enough. And again, they could build defenses to decrease the number of victims.
Also the premise of “Israel is a monster” sentiment is hugely weakened by the monstrosity of the October attack itself.
What Hamas did had a totally unsurprising result, as distressing as that is, that inevitably resulted in, and continues to result in, unacceptable civilian suffering. Moreover, even though Israel has slow walked towards a regressive ethnofascist state since at least the Rabin’s assassination, the October attack straight up merced whatever dwindling progressive peace activist movements on the Israeli side that were still continuing the struggle.
One can be anti-Zionist and pro-basic human decency without romanticizing a violent religious fundamentalist organization that has at this point done almost nothing but harm to the interests and well-being of the people whom it purports to be protecting.
Yeah, how dare people treat a genocidal state and a people resisting genocide to different standards!!!1!
there is under international law a diffrent set of rules of war the Palistianans operate under than Isn’treal do as Palistine is seen as an opressed and colonised people fighting for independence
Exactly! This is why I say Israel has a right to defend itself while Hamas should not be allowed to exist.
Though recent events (like Israel’s pager attack) have made this argument much weaker…
This is probably the only way left for them to have any form of resistance. Since the international community have largely failed them and with Daddy Yankee and the war machine in Israel’s corner there is no chance of conventional war even if they had the numbers.
These attacks create a culture of fear in everyday Israelis but if sustained it could possibly cause them to put pressure on their gov for a ceasefire and force Bibi out. Who knows, the whole situation is just tragic and has gone on for decades.
Maybe some day our species will realize the futility of war.
Its a statement not support. They are resisting Israeli occupation. I’m not cheering for anyone to die and I don’t agree with it. In the same vain indiscriminate bombing is wrong too and has killed thousands of innocents.
To quote the article
At least 41,689 people have been killed and 96,625 have been injured in Israel’s assault on Gaza, according to Palestinian authorities. At least 1,139 people were killed in the Hamas-led attacks, according to an Al Jazeera tally based on Israeli statistics, and around 250 others were seized as hostages.
The death toll clearly skews to one side in a major way. What people here are saying is not that we support violence in any case, we do not, we are saying you can’t be surprised when they fight back when you look at the numbers. Israel could have entered on the ground and fought enemy combatants with a much lower civilian death toll. They targeted civilians first.
The Ezzedine Al-Qassam Brigades takes responsibility for the heroic Jaffa operation carried out by the fighters from the [occupied West Bank] city of Hebron
Heroic operation? Shooting up a tram? Fuck off. This is not resistance, it’s wanton murder. Random people in public transit are not legitimate targets.
The fanatic stupidity on display here is astounding. But what else to expect? Fanatic stupidity festers in occupation, dehumanization, and genocide.
There are no good guys in this conflict.
Meanwhile Israel bombed and killed 90 civilians on the same day, including an orphanage
The Apartheid needs to end for all this violence to end, none of these civilians deserve any of this.
