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It’s probably a coincidence that shortly after Mozilla acquires an ad company, they “accidentally” remove an ad blocker.

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They made an error and quickly corrected. It’s the addon author who threw a fit and removed the addon.

This just makes me worried to rely on uBO but more because what if the author just fucks off because someone else pissed them off.

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Mozilla can’t be trusted to host the addon, so the author is taking on the responsibility of hosting it himself. How is that his fault and not Mozilla’s?

Whether Mozilla acted out of malice or incompetence is irrelevant. The report was false and the findings were incorrect, they have to be held responsible either way.

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Mozilla did apologize, said they were wrong and said they’d correct the issue. The author refused and decided not to put it back to AMO. At that points its on the author that it’s not AMO.

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I’d much rather have them be overzealous and mistakenly block an addon for a few hours, than have them be too lax and approve addons actually stealing data.

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I think they had reasons to act how they acted. They’re probably on a lot of pressure because the whole tech world is fighting ad blocking now.

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There’s always some reason. I’m just worried that something happens with uBO and same happens there

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As the article says, only when it blew up. But you’re right, the author doesn’t look good either.

More honestly, I enjoy a good conspiracy theory with my coffee.

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As the article says, only when it blew up.

The article also seems to say that he didn’t bother to disprove the mistaken findings and so Mozilla might’ve not even heard anything back until it blew up. The whole thing seems to have happened pretty quickly.

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then someone with much more talent can step up, rename the plugin, and carry on.

The challenge is choosing the next maintainer user handle.

https://github.com/msftcangoblowm/sphinx-external-toc-strict

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That is the power of open source, but gorhill is a very respected and uncompromising maintainer so can be hard to find someone as good

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Lite is barely relevant for Firefox anyway. Gorhill (along with host list maintainers) is one of the saints of modern day open source; if he felt overwhelmed by Mozilla’s actions, and chose to just take Lite down from the extension store, he has every right to. No one should shit on someone who has given so much to the community.

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I know looking at it from the outside can look like throwing a fit, but as a software dev I can assure you our professional life is a constellation of papercuts and stumbling blocks on the best days. It is a fun job in many ways but it’s by its nature extremely frustrating at times. For professionals, the inherent frustrations are just the tip of the proverbial iceberg, the rest of the iceberg being induced frustrations due to work environment causes of various nature, and a lot of devs who also develop stuff in their own free time do it to regain a sense of purpose and control.

If these kinda hiccups keep happening even outside the day job of a developer, it is absolutely understandable that the reaction is simply to cut the bullshit rather than grabbing yet another shovel to shovel away the shit you’ve been covered with this time.

Ultimately, the cost benefit analysis for keeping uBOL hosted on mozilla’s platform became skewed on the cost side and the additional expense is not one that gorhill can or wants to afford.

So, yeah, it’s not a hissy fit.

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I don’t think throwing a fit and it being a hissy fit are the same thing.

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It would seem that the ubo lite version was made specifically to cater to chrome and manifest v3 if I’m not mistaken…

In the end the author may have just felt it was too much energy keeping a pared down chrome version on Firefox when the full version is present and working. Especially after this particular drama.

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Some say the Lite one was good for mobile since it was lighter weight but I didn’t notice a difference tbh.

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This just makes me worried to rely on uBO but more because what if the author just fucks off because someone else pissed them off.

That is very concerning to me, also.

Large parts of the internet relying on one or two tiny one-man FOSS projects? (UBO and ADguard are often cited as the only two reliable-ish and safe adblockers)

If he can’t be bothered with that nonsense, how secure is UBO’s future? How secure is the future of adblocking?

I would bet that advertising companies are rubbing their hands now and planning to ramp up pressure against these poor devs.

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It’s probably a coincidence that shortly after Mozilla acquires an ad company, they “accidentally” remove an ad blocker.

I mean I’m of two minds here. One, there’s an epidemic of intellectually lazy, kneejerk Mozilla hate and it’s time to turn the tide on that.

But on the other hand, even as a Mozilla fanboy I can see how this is a really bad look, and really indefensible. I think it’s more of a huge error of judgment, and if there are other huge errors, I can begin to see a problem, but I think they have too much of a positive track record in their history to just go reaching for the tinfoil hats so quickly.

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Gorhill is free to do whatever he wants, of course, I thank him for all the good work. But his reaction is honestly childish and dangerous for the community. Once again his decision to pull the plug opens the door to abusers. Now when you go to the addons page and search for uBlock, you may find illegitimate extensions pretending to be uBlock which are trying to collect your data or worse. Less tech say people don’t know any better.

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This one is completely on Mozilla. TBH I’m not very happy with their governance either. Stop spending money on bullshit and start working on the damn browser. Stop hassling devs like him who have had an immense contribution to not only open source, but your fucking browser’s usage metrics.

I wish another browser standard comes up and we can say goodbye to this google-infested shit-bucket that is mozilla.

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Not to disagree but mozilla and firefox are not the same thing

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I didn’t say they were. For the most part, if a third option really comes up, I’m OK with Mozilla not existing at all.

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Thats kind of like saying Valve and Steam are not the same thing. Like, yea, Valve owns and develops Steam, but most people will understand someone who calls the company “Steam” (even if they sound a bit daft in doing so).

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The funny part is I did mean Mozilla

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Ok, but “google-infested shit-buckets” are also Chrome and all the chromium poop cups, even more so one might say.

Not disagreeing, especially with the sad sentiment of what’s happening at Mozilla, just trying to keep in mind the other 95% of the browser picture.

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Which is why I’d like to see a third player. I don’t use Chrome except for ungoogled chromium when the other browsers are tied up

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Yes, as said, Im agreeing, I was just pointing out the sad reality of what the majority is doing (and like it or not, that affects us all).
I’d love a legit third choice (again)!

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65 points

Probably due to automatic extension reviews by Mozilla.

Sad that it happened, but at least it doesn’t impact the actual uBlock, only the lite version for which I honestly see no purpose in Firefox anyways.

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It was a manual review conducted by an actual person that in the end admitted they were wrong

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27 points

Oh okay, not a good look.

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Are you like, those old multi colour swirly rubber balls we used to get out of 20p machines as kids? Those were ill!

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Agreed. Especially considering uBlock origin is pretty much the main reason to use FF at all. They shouldn’t be delegating reviews of it to someone who would fuck up this badly.

Assuming this wasn’t a “test the waters” kind of thing to determine just how much they were reliant on ublock.

I’ve been using the main FF build for a while now but I’m wondering if I should start looking at the various fork options.

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It was a manual review conducted by an actual person that in the end admitted they were wrong

Good to know! I wasn’t sure if it was automated or not. That’s rough.

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3 points

Where does it say it was a manual review?

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In the original post on GitHub it’s mentioned that it was a manual review

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11 points

I honestly see no purpose in

It’s to circumvent ManifestV3.

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I thought that was the shit Chrome was doing to block adblockers and antimalware plugins, if Firefox is doing the same thing what browser do we use now? :-(

I don’t care about all the browser wars stuff, I lost interest when it was Netscape Vs IE, I just want a browser that I can configure fully myself and have it be as safe and secure as one can make it, within reason.

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Firefox is not eliminating MV2 extensions. You can stick with Firefox.

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5 points

If we want to do something radically different, there’s always gopher and gemini browsers.

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I thought that was the shit Chrome was doing to block adblockers and antimalware plugins, if Firefox is doing the same thing what browser do we use now? :-(

They’re doing a modified version of V3 that they changed to restore ad-blocking functionality.

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Manifest v2 still works on Firefox, so OP was right, it’s useless

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The dev stated that it mostly exists for more performance-limited applications like mobile.

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Theoretically, the browser executes the Mv3 blocking rules, so it could be optimized and more efficient than js ever could.

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then someone with much more talent can step up, rename the plugin, and carry on.

The challenge is choosing the next maintainer user handle.

https://github.com/msftcangoblowm/sphinx-external-toc-strict

Good choice?

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