67 points

Citation link of Harris worshippers?

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48 points

Realistically they don’t exist. But it messes with their narrative. They need to feel Superior. So they need to feel that the people who disagree with them must worship her or Trump. Because it certainly couldn’t be that they have bad takes. Or thay people have reasonable things to disagree with them on. They know in their own minds that they are absolutely 100% correct. And if you disagree with them. It doesn’t mean that you have anything about to say or a point. It just means to them that you are wrong.

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-42 points

Go to Twitter, say anything about her extremely right wing record as a senator and AG.

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-49 points

Exactly. Or complain about her at all anywhere, or say you wouldn’t vote for her or trump because of their support for genocide. You’ll have a ton of people jumping down your throat about how not voting for her is a vote for Trump and all this nonsense.

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23 points

Just because you cant process the externalities of your decisions doesnt mean other people wont.

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Yeah I mean all you do is make a equivalence between the two and say they are both bad so don’t vote for either and people think you are a fucking moron for thinking that. What gives? So what if the train is going to run over 1 person or 1000 people both are bad so either will do. Have to choose between the flu or AIDS and if you don’t choose you get AIDS? Both are bad so just take the AIDS. It’s simple logic and people have the audacity to think you are a fucking idiot for thinking it. Fuck them man you got this! I believe in you! Now go get you some AIDS!

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20 points

You’ll have a ton of people jumping down your throat about how not voting for her is a vote for Trump and all this nonsense

I’m just going to add here, that when I’m indicating this kind of thing what I’m hoping for folks to get out of it is how broken our first past the pole system is.

Because of that system, yeah, 3rd party candidates are tossing your vote away, that’s how the system is created. I didn’t make it, that’s just how it works. It’s also why the hard nationalist group usurped the party of small government. There’s a realization that a realistic third party isn’t possible, especially with how hard the two majority parties prevent 3rd parties from having an equal seat at the table going into elections. So the smarter groups have realized that if you can’t effectively make a 3rd party, just take over an already existing one. You can also see that with socialist and the Democrats intermixing. We keep excusing it by indicating “shades” of a color, like deep blue Democrats, etc.

There’s layers to the “voting 3rd party is tossing you vote away”. You aren’t at fault here for a desire to vote 3rd party, but if the only thing you take away when someone tells you that is “you’re worthless for tossing your vote in the trash” you’re kind of missing the point.

Our system is built a particular way and it’s wrong to pretend it isn’t. That 3rd parties are viable choices or actual reflections of non-mainstream political agenda, they aren’t and our tectonic sized two parties are mostly the reason for that. I’m not going to tell you to vote for whoever, all I ask for anyone is to see the problem and know voting 3rd party isn’t, strictly, going to fix it. If we look at the US State of Maine, you can see, that there is actual change and that we can have it if we demand it, no need for hard bordered in 3rd parties to enact it.

I’m not angry at anyone who says they are voting 3rd party, you do you is my biggest jam. But we’ve got to see the problem before we can address the problem, and then we need to effectively address the problem. Which means, yeah, we are wholly reliant on something that sounds impossible. For one of the two parties to get into power and then vote to make changes that could potentially dilute their power. I know that’s asking for a big leap of faith there, it is possible. But it isn’t possible if we’re just sticking our heads into the sand.

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-40 points

Have you ever encountered the KHive?

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51 points

Saying she’s a better choice than Joe or Trump is not idolizing. Take it from me, a coconut pilled internet brained phone banker.

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8 points

Tbf, some people can have fun and this point that might look like pretending you’re as crazy for her as can be

If I were asked, depending on the context I’d either say I’m coco for coconuts or fuck the DNC. It’s like a only we can talk shit thing because ideally we want them to improve (context: two-party system)

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53 points

So no Harris equivalent?

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Idk why you’re being downvoted it’s like people forgot about 2016. Although that might just have been bc she was far less popular back then so her more vocal supporters seemed a lot louder

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9 points

There was no one idolizing Kamala in 2016. She was waaaaaay behind in the primary. Sounds like YOU forgot about 2016.

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10 points

Literally, no. No I have not. I’ve never even heard of whatever that is. Some kind of pro-Harris group?

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Kamala Harris Has A Vibrant Online Fan Club. But It Also Has A Toxic Side.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-khive-toxic-side_n_5f4fa573c5b69eb5c037473e

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5 points

That’s people who back her. I’m pretty sure you can back her and still be critical of some of her choices and actions.

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4 points

They would never say they’d be ok with her being a dictator for one day. They are in a different universe from maga.

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8 points

That literally doesn’t exist. Unlike the Cult of Trump, people appreciate her genuineness, her honesty, her integrity, her intelligence, her warmth… To think that that rises to the level of “worship” is wild.

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7 points

Agreed! Notice no one is replying with Harris equivalents.

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1 point

Just count the number of blue “Not Going Back” hats you see! /s

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2 points

Just count the number of blue “Not Going Back” hats you see! /s

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Lmao missed with that both sides bs

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“This applies to both sides” != “Both sides are the same”

Money in politics is an issue on both sides. That does not mean both sides are the same.

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12 points

Hurrdurr urr I think both sides worship their candidates as gods deserving full authority and immunity uuhhhh definitely not partisan

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-17 points

I’m not going to find any defense of a second Biden admin in your comment history, right?

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-6 points

Damn, you sure got me, bud. I concede.
Your intellect remains unmatched.

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55 points

But it’s only a problem on one side.

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1 point

It’s a character flaw to idolize anyone.

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27 points

Sorry, I’ll rephrase for clarity: it’s only happening on one side. I mean c’mon, the Democrats gave up running an incumbent president because he was obviously not up to the job (read: senile). Trump was never up to the job (read: egomaniacal racist sexist idiotic narcissistic wannabe-dictator) but the Republicans practically broke their necks slipping in their own drool running to nominate him for the third fucking time, even though last time he ran he quite literally tried to start a civil war.

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Republicans gave up on writing and voting on a party platform because dementia Don can’t decide what he’s for or against, or at least unable to articulate it in any way that isn’t just sane-washing.

They literally don’t stand for anything anymore except whatever his latest ramblings are.

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-4 points

AOC has a lot of people idolizing her in between all the weirdos sexualizing her

But definitely, the left does that to a lower degree than the cult

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-25 points

Were you not alive a couple months ago when the entirety of dem social media was desperately trying to convince the world a second Biden term was a good idea?

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30 points

You mean a couple months ago when they begged him to stop running and then he did? Yeah, I remember well. The Democrats gave up an incumbent candidate, historically the biggest possible advantage a political party could have, because they knew he obviously was unfit for the task. It’s almost like they base their decisions on reality and common sense instead of fear-mongering bullshit and xenophobia, interesting…

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-23 points

They waited until practically the last second, and up until that last second you people were hounding every single person that called for Biden to keep his one term promise constantly saying he was firnfr office and obviously wasn’t too old or too ill or too unpopular. You don’t get to rewrite that history.

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-6 points

They clearly don’t want to remember that, judging by your downvotes

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10 points

Because no one was idolizing him, it was worry about who would run instead so late in the process. That isn’t idolizing, that is practicality and concern.

I was one of the people very concerned. I am so very glad to be wrong.

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23 points

Pretty much yeah. Dudes aren’t festooning their homes and cars with Kamala signs and hats. Blue colored hats haven’t become synonymous with one particular political group in a party either.

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66 points

Bernie is idolized on the left for his character, for good reason. And even then, he’s not above scrutiny. When he was investigated for that banking stuff, everyone said “do it”.

… that’s it. That’s all we’ve got on the left.

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I don’t like the Bernie love cause it’s hypocrisy. How are we gonna say we want old people out of politics, except OUR old guy. Nah, he’s had his run and anything he could have done by now he would have.

Frankly I don’t have a problem with him but I did have a problem with people pushing him as president, cause I rather win an election, and Bernie can’t win those. He can’t even get the full support of his own party why would I think he’d be a good president?

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8 points

I voted for him in both primaries. But that’s why I was entirely fine that he didn’t win. The people chose, and it wasn’t him.

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I get the impression it’s different people making each of these conflicting arguments.

Personally I have no problem with old people being in leadership positions; experience is useful. The problem with the old white men in charge of the USA is that they serve corporations, not that they’re old white men.

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26 points

I think people on the left love Bernie because there aren’t a lot of terrible skeletons in his closet. There are still a TON of things that Bernie could do that would make me dislike him and not support him. There is almost nothing Trump could do that would make a Trump supporter dislike him and not support him. That’s the difference.

In other words, admiring someone for their ideals and action is not the same as unconditionally supporting them. No politician deserves the latter.

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we should not necessarily want old people out of politics. we should want old policies out of politics, and senile people out of government.

But if an old politician is mentally and physically fit for office, and brings policies in line with the will of the people, they should be allowed to run.

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2 points

If anything, this election has taught us that we want old people out of office, but only if their name is Joe Biden.

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1 point

Sees hornets nest

“Heh heh” KICK

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13 points

But you can’t pay a politician to fu…oh I guess you can just get a politician to do that too. Yeah 👍 agreed 💯.

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