A reminder that this is still how they think.
Hereās a fact check OF a fact check about Project 2025, something that has been stated recently will gut the National Hurricane Center.
USA Todayās fact check of that claim
Now when I first ran across this link, I thought, hmmmā¦are liberal Youtubers making up stuff to sell their position as a hurricane approaches? Maybe so. Then I read the article and actual text from Project 2025.
Project 2025 ādoes not call for the elimination ofā the National Hurricane Center, Heritage Foundation spokesperson Ellen Keenan told USA TODAY.
Not in the text, this part of the fact check is correct. The text calls for review of it as well as other agencies and downsize or move resources around as needed. But then I see:
Data collected by the department should be presented neutrally, without adjustments intended to support any one side in the climate debate.
Well, that set off some alarm bells in my head. They arenāt actively proposing to shut it down, but there does seem to be an agenda here.
Project 2025 accuses NOAA of āclimate alarmismā and calls for it to be "broken up and downsized.ā āThat is not to say NOAA is useless, but its current organization corrupts its useful functions,ā the playbook says of the agency.
I read all this as exactly how MAGA Republicans in power have been treating anything tied to climate change. They arenāt completely cutting things out, only the parts that are inconvenient to their agenda. Which of course is terrible science, and will absolutely affect the ability to learn and respond to future threats.
USA Today is a tool for them if they are marking such claims as completely false.
AccuWeatherās owner and Republican megadonor Joel Myers has been dreaming for years about destroying the National Weather Service. He wants weather to be a for-profit venture (specifically his profit).
God damnit. if you understand anything about our global weather observation network you know that if America privatizes the entire world will have way way less accurate weather no matter what anyone pays.
the only reason things work so well now is because the whole world openly and freely shares all of this data. this is important because all of the worldās weather patterns effect each other. thereās only so much data that can be collected without being in the territory as well. so much of the worldād infrastructure relies on this information being available and accurate. privatizing it would surely be massively profitable and horribly detrimental to everyone and everything. itās one of the very few actually decent cooporative things humanity has ever done. of course rich bullies want to come and stomp it out.
You know, Iāve never thought about this. I know there are some things that scientists from different nations work together on even if the countries donāt like each other much (like the ISS and cern) but Iāve never thought about the weather.
Thatād be insane to privatize weather data but Iām sure thatās what they want to do because they can charge for it.
Lol, āone side of the climate debate.ā There isnāt debate among scientists - thereās like less than one percent of climate scientists who donāt believe that humans are putting our climate in a terrible place. So just that part the tells you the bias. Itās just like when they talk about the debate between evolution and creationism: the only debate is with people who reject the data to further their own agenda.
In 2014 John Oliver had a segment on Last Week Tonight where he had āa statistically representative climate change debateā, where he brought out 3 scientists arguing against human affected climate change and 97 arguing for it.
Right, thatās the thing.
I honestly believe part of the problem this country is in today started when the news media felt they had to give equal time to every issue. I remember lots of segments on climate change where they had one person on each side, and I could understand most people coming away believing we just donāt know. And itās not just climate change, they did that with everything.
So here we are, polarized like never before, with so many believing that every opinion is legitimate. Sure, you can believe what you want, but if you believe the world was created 6000 years ago, youāre just wrong. Youāre entitled to believe something wrong, but that doesnāt make it valid. A legitimate news site should reflect that. A climate denier or a creationist shouldnāt get equal time. Same with do many issues.
The claim is false and we should absolutely be careful about how we word things but also the outcome will be, as you say, essentially the same.
āā¦reminder that Project 2025 plans to defund large sections of the NOAA and is more worried about how facts ruin their arguments than the safety of your towns and cities.ā
A little longer but at least itās true.
This is only half the picture. The other half is the repeal of schedule f (I think) where the federal government hires people to serve as experts of a subject rather than working for the administration. Project 2025 wants to reclassify thousands of government jobs to allow them to be appointed but the president. Imagine NOAA, not gone, but rather ran by maga loyalists or scientists who have to shut up or lose their jobs. And tons of other places too like the epa, OSHA, nrc, and more
Data collected by the department should be presented neutrally, without adjustments intended to support any one side in the climate debate.
Using recent history as context for my interpretation of this, I believe what they actually mean is āā¦should definitely not be presented neutrally, because doing so would rely only on the peer reviewed science which overwhelmingly agrees that climate change is definitely a real thing that is currently happening. Instead, DO adjust it to make it seem like itās impossible to say for sure.ā
Also itās important to note that NOAA is often used for military purposes. Four of our six military branches (Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard, and the Space Force whatever they do) absolutely and unequivocally depend on their data to do their job, one just relies on it, and the sixth hitches rides on navy equipment.
Iām not the biggest fan of the military industrial complex, but if the oceanic and atmospheric arm of one of the worldās most significant consumers of mined hydrocarbons has been sounding the alarm bells for decades I have every reason to believe them
Florida wants bombs I guess.
with enough bombs they can blow up the next hurricane before it becomes a problem for the people living in florida
Georgia too right? Biden offered federal assistance and the governor said no, then immediately turned around and said Biden isnāt helping
Traitorous sexual predator.
Because they lie a lot.
