I’d love to meet whoever made this graphic. Shake his hand. Seems like a good dude.
My attempt at a joke about casual sexism. I was a little high, and I’m not sure if it landed
I always take posts like this with a big grain of salt. Yes, women were oppressed and in many places still are, but posts like these tend to stretch and exaggerate the truth because they WANT to find oppression of women. They WANT the fight, and they want the fight to still be here and burning brightly today to justify actions many would find questionable at best.
EDIT: Fun fact for you, in the USA in 1970 8% of stem workers were female. Today, its 27%.
Okay, how was the truth stretched here?
EDIT: Fun fact for you, in the USA in 1970 8% of stem workers were female. Today, its 27%.
It should be 50%.
Okay, how was the truth stretched here?
Payne was credited by Russel, who is not the one who told her not to publish, and she became a Department Chair later in life.
Josselyn Bell actually argued against the point of this meme in her own words decades ago.
Lisa Meitner said Otto deserved that Nobel Prize. Meitner is heavily immortalized.
Franklin might have recieved the prize in person if she were alive at the time (dead people do not qualify to recieve it).
It should be 50%
Then ask women to enter stem, you and I do not have the authority to force them to do anything they don’t want to do.
And btw you’re fucking lucky I took the time to write this up for you, since its easier to manufacture bullshit than refute it most educated people don’t even waste time doing it.
I want to upvote this so many times!!
Don’t. Because this graph takes more than just a few liberties with history, specifically for the sake of creating some kind of outrage.
Who is downvoting this?
Have you met men on the internet lately? like a 1/3 chance of intense misogyny.
If we’re still honest here, didn’t these men just shield them from the burdens of fame and criticism?
So they could focus on their families
Probably people who have heard of these scientists being recently credited for their work.
The phrase “all the credit” is a bit sensationalist, and it’s too easy to poke holes in, although I do concede that “Most of the credit” is vague and “All of the Nobel Prize recognition and prize money / peer accolades” is a bit too wordy.
It’s important that we don’t weaken the cause by easily disprovable exaggeration. These scientists did not get nearly enough credit; true.
So, how about you go ahead and do the math on how long it took for that to finally happen for each of these women? And when you’re done not bothering to do that, go ahead and admit that you wouldn’t be pissed at all if your hard work and lifetime of research and sacrifice was credited to someone else- and not corrected until you’re long dead.
Because I’ll be waiting here to call you a liar.
Do you have quotes on these women being infuriated? Jocelyn Bell shut down tabloids who insinuated she wasn’t credited, and Payne was cited by Russel as “the most important research” after a different person, her advisor, told her not to rock the boat on her thesis project. Payne became a department chairwoman some years later.
See also Rosalind Franklin who first discovered DNA’s double helix structure (three men later received the Nobel Prize for this finding).
And more examples here.
Franklin might have won the prize, had she not died 4 years before the prize was awarded. Rules forbid the Nobel being awarded to the deceased.
