28 points

Other countries try to figure out how to improve public transit and reduce congestion and pollution. Ontario’s Conservatives try to blow the entire budget on absurdly expensive roads that will soon become as congested as the present ones.

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Conservatives: We keep trying it and it keeps not working but I can’t handle change so I’m gunna pretend that my way is, like, morally correct or some shit and make it everyone else’s problem. Just one more lane bro. Just one more tax break bro. Please bro just one more private utility bro.

Also Conservatives: We’re the party of fiscal responsibility! Sure none of our ideas make any sense and always cost more in the longterm but they make the selfish and economically illiterate people feel better about themselves so that’s a win for us!

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24 points

Ontario has a locust problem

Ontario government proposes a solution … more locusts!

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18 points

So how much is he planning to get in kickbacks? Ford only considers projects with financial benefit to himself.

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How i imagine this wwent down:

Ford; “Just one more lane. It’ll work this time I swear.” Sane people: “No it wont and besides, We don’t have room for another lane” Ford: “But what if…”

Anyway. Let’s just build a damn train track. On land. One not owned by a freight service but dedicated to passenger transit.

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Let’s go hog fuckin’ wild and build TWO. Electrified.

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Amd it’d still cost way less then a gaint tunnel in both building and maintenance.

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He said the tunnel would serve as “a new expressway for both cars and transit” from Brampton to Mississauga in the West to Markham and Scarborough in the east […]

Drop the cars, dedicating the tunnel strictly to transit, and your ground level gridlock will solve itself.

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Doesn’t even have to be solely trains, but a few lanes of busses would help with shorter/End of Line trips as well.

Though this is worth noting that ventilation concerns with tunnels are always a nightmare (one of the reasons there aren’t tons of tunnels). Its now turning into an issue where roads cross our 400 series highways, and one of the reasons they’re often bridges. As the highway reaches ~4lanes each way, they need to install ventilation of some kind, which has caused problems and forced design adjustments. Look at Barrie where they have a few roads running under the 400. Now that they’re trying to widen to 8 lanes, all those crossings are extending into “tunnel” category and have additional requirements. They’ve been forced to split the highway with an open air section in the middle over those roads in order to ensure proper airflow. This means more land acquisition and higher pricing to build.

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5 points

Ventilation still a problem with just electric trains with metal rolling stock?

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I could be off, but I seem to remember that the requirements for ventilation are less if there is no combustion engine + exhaust fumes present. I’ll see if if I can dig up the actual design standards.

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It is an issue, but an ICE burns far more fuel than a human. (food is fuel that the body burns!) That means if your have ICE engines in a tunnel you need a lot more air to get rid of the CO2 (ideally no other pollutants - though I wouldn’t bet on this) and get enough O2 there for everything to burn. If we only run electric trains we still need some air for the people to breath, but much less as they are breathing much less

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