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*irrational magic thoughts

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“Spiritual awakening” you mean joined a cult. Smh

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Not necessarily. It can be something as simple as “My spiritual beliefs just happen to align with what I want to do already”. If you want to eat meat, it’s very tempting to find a “spiritual” reason for doing it. Nobody can question you; it’s just what you believe!

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Except we need to hold even spirituality to some measurable degree of sanity.

What if someone truly believes that they need to kill someone or a group of people because of their beliefs, that’s not permissible. It’s not rational or logical to let religious beliefs be a free card to do whatever shit they want.

Religion is a fucking cult.

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There are established criteria of what defines a cult, and any spiritual belief system is not necessarily a cult, unless it meets all of that criteria.

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(Haven’t watched the video yet); As a spiritually-inclined person who is also vegan, I do think that is something that other religious people need to come to terms with. Particularly when it comes to witchy and neopagan communities, there’s too much (ie., more than zero) interest in reviving the dead practice of animal sacrifice.

On the other hand I would like to see some data on which proportion of people in each religion are vegan. Which belief systems have the highest percentages of vegans, relative to their own populations?

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Which belief systems have the highest percentages of vegans, relative to their own populations?

Buddhism and other neighboring systems tend to arrive at veganism being virtuous

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That’s also my hunch - that Buddhism in particular has a high percentage of vegans. I still would like to see the data though.

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Just to add to the mix: Third Day Adventists encourage going vegan, and quite a few of them are vegetarian. It’s not a huge religion, but I know that they’ve even been studied for their longevity.

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Except that a strict Buddhist diet is not vegan. Somehow traditional religions always realised that humans need animal protein.

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The only animal product you’re required to consume in Christianity is the body and blood of Christ.

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Yeah but that was given consensually (ostensibly), so it’s still vegan.

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consent is not mentioned in the definition of veganism from the vegan society

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Too much mercury from all the fish

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Man, it’s been a few years since I’ve heard ‘spiritual’ people talk, and I did not miss it at all.

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I cut ties with my very best friend, because she went from becoming vegan to believing in tarot cards to full on antivax flat earther who told me that i shouldn’t let my mom do chemo, because she has some good chrystals in like a year or two.

I honestly don’t miss rolling my eyes all day long.

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I’ve noticed the phenomenon of humans desentientizing someone by declaring them as “sacred”, which works as a prelude to “sacrifice”. Seems like some very ancient human bullshit based on objectification, but it’s not objectification for commodification, it’s objectification in the service of the ego by trying to convince one’s ego that you’re not a monster, that you’re nice and good.

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Sacrifices are ways of penitence without having to actually feel bad for anything you do. Oh no, I committed crimes and sins! Here’s a goat. Conscience clear.

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