WASHINGTON, Sept 21 (Reuters) - The U.S. Commerce Department is expected on Monday to propose prohibiting Chinese software and hardware in connected and autonomous vehicles on American roads due to national security concerns, two sources told Reuters.

The Biden administration has raised serious concerns about the collection of data by Chinese companies on U.S. drivers and infrastructure as well as the potential foreign manipulation of vehicles connected to the internet and navigation systems.

The proposed regulation would ban the import and sale of vehicles from China with key communications or automated driving system software or hardware, said the two sources, who declined to be identified because the decision had not been publicly disclosed.

The move is a significant escalation in the United States’ ongoing restrictions on Chinese vehicles, software and components. Last week, the Biden administration locked in steep tariff hikes on Chinese imports, including a 100% duty on electric vehicles as well as new hikes on EV batteries and key minerals.

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This probably can’t be great news for Chinese-owned Volvo.

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How would that even work? There is so much open source software in cars where you have no idea where the programmer is from. Best example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor

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Did we all forget about the study from Mozilla on vehicle data collection?

The fact of the matter is that every single new connected product is collecting data on anyone who uses it. Once the data is collected, it’s sold. Once it’s on the market, that data is used by every country. China will eventually get data on US drivers regardless of what make they drive, the US government just wants first dibs.
I’m not one of those people who think that China and Russia are some kind of utopic ideal we should all be working towards. The US government is also not a shining beacon of ethics.

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Yeah, obviously it’s not the point, but I would love a ban on car data collection instead.

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Given how much lobbying power the American automotive industry has, I don’t think that will ever happen.

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It’s weird how they charge you $40k for a car, which almost every American needs just to survive, sell your data in addition to that, and still need to be bailed out by the taxpayer regularly.

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I want them to write an actual KOSA bill that would introduce privacy laws and would prevent this stuff. But nah it’s more like Kill Online Safety Act and do nothing about the real problems.

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They probably would if they weren’t being payed by lobby groups not to. Or at least one would hope they would.

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Effectively just a ban on Chinese EV’s to protect American car companies that can’t keep up with them.

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the optimal approach would be to embrace public transport and let cars go the way of carthorses.

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