A friend of someone related doesn’t have a laptop nowadays, but needs one. Now we have 2 old laptops at home, and we want to give her one so she can do some things on it. Since she isn’t used to laptops and the old laptops wouldn’t run a Windows 11 (I don’t want to install a Win10 because of end of support and lacking security features), I guess installing a simple Linux is fine. Now comes the big question: Which Linux distro should I install? (see requirements below)

Laptops:

  • Acer Aspire ES 15, AMD dual-core E1-7010 @1.5 GHz, 4GB RAM, 1000 GB HDD
  • HP Pavilion 17-e030ez, Intel Pentium @2.4 GHz, 4GB RAM, 10000 GB HDD (I’d choose this)

Tasks:

  • Office Stuff (I thought about OnlyOffice)
  • Internet surfing
  • Banking via Web

Requirements:

  • needs to have full German support
  • needs an easy software installation center
  • should be easy to learn
  • optionally, her friends (which probably use Windows/ Mac) should be able to help her (since she never had a laptop before)
  • eventually German forum/ German Guides

I’m using Linux/ Manjaro for myself but don’t have any experience with beginner-friendly distros. I used a KDE neon for some time and also have used Ubuntu, and to be honest, they seem beginner-friendly too.

Please let me know your opinions, thanks!

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Internet surfing

Forget web browsing with 4GB RAM. You can completely disregard the comments recommending a “lite DE” when merely opening a modern web site will put the whole PC into crawling. The 150 MB more or less for different desktops are completely irrelevant then.

The best “newbie friendly” distribution is just plain Fedora Workstation but with only 4GB RAM it will be a pain to use no matter what.

Edit: If you’re a KDE user yourself, you’re best equipped to answer KDE-related questions.

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I have a laptop with 4GB of RAM and it works fine, my fedora i3 installation. It’s nothing compared to a proper computer but it’s not like I ever run out of RAM either. (Generally I open two Firefox windows, discord and vscode)

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Forget web browsing with 4GB RAM.

…if you don’t install an ad-blocker and open many tabs at the same time…

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There are several browsers that can operate with low memory requirements, but you have to be willing to live without JavScript & the front-end needs to have been built with accessibility & progressive enhancement in mind. …Which most front-end developers don’t do & the industry doesn’t normally pay them enough to care or get better results (& following YouTube tutorials always tells you to use the latest bloated framework which is overkill for your project).

Also Fedora doesn’t ship with LTS kernels which makes me question their package management strategy.

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I think 4GB is plenty for web browsing if there are not many tabs opened. Though the laptop will still be slow because of the specs.

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Pop! Os

Imo.

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New user that didn’t exactly choose to try Linux, I’d go with Ubuntu or Mint just for the sake of being compatible with pretty much anything you’d find when looking up “how to X on Linux”. On those specs I guess I’d go Xubuntu or Mint Xfce edition.

I’d try a few Wayland compositors and X11 WMs on the thing and see what performs the best. Depending on the graphics situation and drivers, Wayland can be faster or slower. At this vintage I’d guess the best will be Xorg with no compositor at all, just plain 2D acceleration, but sometimes even the crappiest OpenGL can be surprising.

If you put Waydroid on it, it’ll also double as a shitty Android tablet. Almost all bank apps will refuse to run because it’s not a certified device, but it will be some common interface their friends are more likely to be able to help with.

I guess there’s also the option of just installing ChromeOS on it.

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There are lots of choices, but personally I would go with Linux Mint as something likely familiar and packaged with pretty much all the basics for the use case you outlined.

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Regarding Specs, I’d choose a lite DE.

  • Xubuntu
  • Linux Mint with Mate or Xfce

You can even use an LTS version for longer lasting editions.

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Linux Mint with Mate +1

Linux in general has good language support.

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Linux in general has good language support.

I’ve yet to find a distro with NZ English 😆. I’d love to just start a new dictionary and add words to it for all the spell checks, but I’ve never worked out how to do this. I’m not sure there’s even system level spell check.

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a distro with NZ English

Not nit-picky at all…

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