I’ve seen tables flipped, tv sets punched through, furniture thrown. And that’s just in the home.

How does one get to a place mentally where burning and destroying things, over a sportsball game seem a reasonable thing to do?

64 points

Should ask somewhere else, you won’t find these people in a federated open-source communist link aggregator website.

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People who destroy things over computer game outcomes: Why?

I’ve seen keyboards flipped, monitors punched through, controllers thrown. And that’s just in the home.

How does one get to a place mentally where burning and destroying things, over a computer game seem a reasonable thing to do?

More relatable?

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Ironically, the only game I’ve ever damaged my own stuff over was a sportsball game.

Most games you fuck up due to your own incompetence, but football games and the like make you feel like you could do nothing wrong in a game and still lose. It’s infuriating.

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More relatable?

No

I’ve seen keyboards flipped, monitors punched through, controllers thrown. And that’s just in the home.

If this is true, then people in your home need some professional help. I have never seen something like that over a videogame

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Not really. It’s just as irrational. Why destroy something because you lost a video game? I’ve been frustrated before due to a game, but never anywhere near frustrated enough to destroy something that I paid a lot of money for and am very happy with. At most I’ll slap my desk or something, but that’s nowhere near hard enough to have any effect.

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I’d say, based on most of the answers here, that the reasons behind the sports scenario (people who are spectators) and the reasons behind the video game scenario (personal failure) are very different.

Apples to oranges.

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It’s called displacement aggression The sportsball fan identifies with his team to the point that it feels like he lost the game himself. Since he can’t express his frustration and subsequent aggression towards the opposing team (since he is in front of his TV several 100km away), he expresses it towards the next best thing that is weaker and accessible, e.g. furniture, walls, wife and kids…

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It’s also really heavily about tribalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism

Because people like to be part of a specific group and feel like the goals of said group are their goals, regardless of the reality of the thing

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I personally find it weird when fans use “us” and “we” when discussing their sports team as if they have anything to do with how the team performs or is managed. I just call my local/city sports teams by their name.

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Since he can’t express his frustration and subsequent aggression towards the opposing team in a way that someone who can regulate their emotions would…

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It is always weird to hear fans refer to what happened in a game as “we”

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I think you’re missing two large parts; escapism and booze.

From the sportsball moniker, I imagine you aren’t a fan. Sometime, it’s worth it to go to a bar that supporters of whatever team go to. There’s something magic about hooting, hollering and cheering with a crowd of complete strangers about this one thing. And in that brief couple of hours, it becomes larger and more magic. And some folks chasing that feeling get drunk and go too far when it goes wrong.

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You’re missing the final piece, gambling losses.

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I dunno.

But I work in contract security. When the Super Bowl came to Minneapolis, it was one of the worst nights of My working-life.

I was walking through a bar to touch bases with their management (the bar was tenants of my client,) and a philly fan broke a bottle off and tried to shank me. That was the night before. All I did to provoke it? Walk behind him.

Another incident the night before, 3 guys were kicking the shit out of an oldish guy while two howling wives egged them on.

They were late twenties early thirties, their victim was a late-50’s black guy.

Their only “reason”? He was wearing a Vikings cap.

Over all, the only night that we had more arrests happen was when the city decided to set up a soft checkpoint for a trump rally with a day’s notice to my client next door.

When ever I start listing incidents other Philly fans are quick to say “no we’re just passionate!”

Green Bay is passionate. They dress up in their cosplay and drink all the beer then go home. (Though, probably some of the best tailgating you’ve ever seen…) they don’t beat the shit out of people.

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As a philly native, I will say that the vast majority of philly fans are more reasonable levels of passionate, I’ve never personally been around anyone getting violent over a game, at worst just a lot of yelling and cursing directed at no one in particular.

But yeah, our worst fans definitely have a way of going the extra mile into the heart of crazytown.

Philly has a tough image and we’re proud of it and embrace it, but a lot of assholes don’t understand that being tough doesn’t mean being needlessly violent, offensive, and destructive.

Personally, I like the lunatics here that climb light poles and think of the city greasing them up as a challenge, that’s the kind of crazy fan I want to represent my city.

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that didn’t take long.

I mean, seriously. You’re aware that after a 49er’s game that turned violent, Eagles added jail cells - oh I’m sorry, the proper term is “holding cell”- to deal with all that… “passion”. and… no. I don’t mean a holding room that locks. they had full on jail cells. and before that, Veteran’s Field didn’t just have jail cell- it had a full on court room.

There’s also those incidents with the D-cell batteries. Plural. Totally normal fan-rivalry things to do. totally.

then there’s that time that eagle’s fans beat up Cheif Zee (redskin’s super fan.)- broken legs, ribs, and other injuries.

And what the fuck did Millie ever do to get harassed by crowds of phillie fans? she was a 90+ year old grandmother for crying out loud. the only thing she did to get the attention was get recognized for being an old vikings fan. Even then you had to drag out your geriatric fan and that wasn’t enough?

sure. Not all eagle’s fans are total assholes. most fans “aren’t that bad”. But you do realize, when other teams say the same thing, they’re talking about people that are singing a little too loud, or shouting obnoxious jingles or maybe they just got a little drunk. (I’m not kidding about packer’s fans drinking all the beer.)

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Really. A native and you’ve never personally seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7sW-0D_qhI

I only knew of one but after googling there appears to have been a few.

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Yeah, astonishingly if you don’t wander into the crowded center city areas that are packed with people and bars, things are a lot more subdued.

There’s something 1½ million people in the city, a lot of whom are watching the game, either at home, in a friends house, or at one of the 1300 or so bars in the city, all spread out over about 140 square miles. If you don’t go seeking out the craziness, it’s easy to not see it in person.

Not to mention all of the eagles fans in the surrounding suburbs.

And take a good look at your video, how much actual violence or destructiveness are you seeing there? I’m seeing mostly a big crowd of people milling around outside chanting and yelling at no one in particular. Creating a nuisance or impeding traffic? Sure, hardly a riot or anything of the sort though.

You have, being generous, maybe a couple thousand people (I’m pretty sure I’ve seen more people turn out to ride in the Philly naked bike ride) gathering around city hall, a major landmark located in the very heart of the city, and doing what? yelling? Maybe 2% of a city where “go birds” passes as a greeting, wandering around outside being a bit rowdy.

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I personally can’t say why I would because I don’t but I can tell you why my friends do. Its because they drink a fuck ton of alcohol, bet way more money than they can afford and get caught up in the mob mentality.

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