The old “look at how well the system works you just have to move to make a difference” story
Either useful non political information or takes so comically bad they can’t hold any water. Mostly the later.
Why is this community so pro censorship? People here complain about tankie mods deleting comments and then the mods of this community are eager to remove anything they don’t like. Correct me if I am wrong but you only seem to allow comments that follow your political agenda.
I don’t see anything wrong with discussion as long as it isn’t name calling or getting out of hand.
You are wrong.
I absolutely loathe American politics and I hate seeing it, but allow it. I also don’t like capitalism, but I allow posts defending it. I also don’t like hearing about the Israel-Palestine conflict, but I allow it.
You’ll find that this community is one of the more open communities across Lemmy regarding political discussion. There is also a warning system in place in this community where you’re given warnings before any action, and that action is usually, at most, a week ban. There has never been a permanent ban issued in this community except for in the most special cases, such as brigading.
Tankies, like all extremists, will typically say something agreeable like, “Landlords and CEOs are bad people.” And that allows them to look moderate. What they don’t say is their more disturbing views, that they wish to kill people they disagree with and their love of authoritarianism, antisemitism and general bigotry and hatred towards minorities.
There is also a thread dedicated for Tankies to discuss their ideas freely, but it was unfeatured because none of them used it. If you wish, I can refeature it, but I guarantee you it won’t be used.
While I strongly disagree with the dogwhistles here, it’s true. If your state voted for Trump or Clinton/Biden with >10% margin in the last two elections, there’s almost zero chance the Trump/Harris election will go any differently.
I personally dislike both major party candidates (but dislike Trump more) and since my state (Utah) voted for Trump with ~20% margin in both prior elections (even in 2016 w/ McMullin taking >20% of the vote), I feel comfortable voting my conscience. I even voted for Biden last election on the off-chance that people here hated Trump enough to matter, but no, >20% spread.
So I’m back to voting third party. Even if every third party vote went to Harris, my state would still elect Trump with something like 15-25% spread. The only way that changes is if Kamala converts to my state’s predominant religion and Trump literally outs himself as worshipping Satan, and even then we’d probably still go with Trump for some stupid reason.
So I vote for the next most popular third party, and in this case, that’s Chase Oliver from the Libertarian Party. I’m also registered Libertarian, mostly because I think they have the best chance to actually get a message out about voting reform, but also because I’m probably closest to their views (though I disagree with the LP on a ton of issues, especially recently, and especially the local UT LP). He’ll probably get 2-3% of the vote, perhaps less this year because he’s gay. If that instead were the Green Party, I’d vote for them (even though I have even less in common), because my goal here is to send a message that the 2-party system sucks.
If your state is that polarized, there’s really no point in voting for the minority party candidate, go third party and make a statement.
I’m glad you’re sending a message about the two-party system in a way that actually matters. Voting third party in a state that will never change is like, the one time it’s safe and effective to do that.
Exactly, yet I get so much pushback on that.
Yes, if your state has any chance of flipping, choose the lesser of two evils. And don’t just look at the last election, look at the last 5 or so. If any of them were anywhere near close, vote for the lesser of two evils. Or if your state is trending toward being competitive, vote for the lesser of two evils. If you’re not willing to check, vote for the lesser of two evils.
But if your state consistently votes a certain way with a huge margin, then vote your conscience. For me, that’s the most popular third party.
believing your state is hard locked in one party is exactly the mindset that makes it hard locked. My state is ‘hard red’ but it wasn’t always like that. California was a solid red state but no longer is. Until we have ranked voting, we’re stuck with two parties at the federal level. Voting 3rd is only serves to signal to the majority parties where to not waste their energy.
These are just fascist nerds cosplaying as commies. Not a genuine Communist in the bunch
What I find funny is that they idolise China as some form of left wing communist utopia. When in reality it’s a very conservative and hyper capitalistic society, just with tonnes of authoritarianism and government control.
I wouldn’t call them conservative. It is just plain authoritarian with communist like ideals. They lack a fair justice system and the entire economy bends down to the will of a single party controlled by an exclusive group. There are parts of China that aren’t capitalist at all and are just for people who aren’t young and able.
Discrimination against LGBT people is rife in China. The social attitude towards them isn’t great either.
